Resin tint too neon & relief cut question

Hey Everyone,

I’m working on a 6’5" Teardrop. I’m new to resin tints and the lam job turned out great, I am really stoked… but, I was going for more of a vintage mustard yellow and I used the straight yellow tint I purchased from the Surf Source, which is pretty much bright neon yellow. I’ll include a pic so you can see, but it’s definitely brighter than the pic.

So my question is it possible to tint the hot coat to bring the color down to a mustard. I was afraid to use pigment, as the SunCure manufacturer said that wasn’t a good idea, but I think using a small amount of pigment may have given me the effect I was trying to achieve.

Question #2 The relief cuts in the nose can be seen in picture number two where the cloth didn’t cover the foam. When I flip the board and do the deck wrap around, will this be seen through the second layer? If so, any ideas? I’m going to use yellow on both sides to get the traditional darker rails.

That yellow looks great to me

leave it or youll F it up

stop with the relief cuts, you only need them at the points and corners

you could patch in the cuts with little V’s of glass and yellow resin then sand even

nice shape

I agree with ken! I think that yellow looks great and even though it’s not what you were going for it’s a good clean solid looking tint so I say run with it. …Also, I recently did my first lam and tint jobs, and I did a swirl, navy blue with sky blue. Now they came out looking darker than I wanted… so I decided to put a transparent white over that first layer. Now instead of a totally acceptable slightly ugly swirl I have a murky messy looking swirl with uneven blotches of white over a now haggard looking swirl. Sooooo that’s the last time I try to layer new layers of tints or pigments over stuff that really is ok. I’d post pictures (with a certain degree of shame) but I haven’t had a sunny day and a camera to get any of it yet.

That tint looks very clean to me! Good luck with the rest and keep posting the progress!

EDIT: also to get to a mustard, you have to mix it up a bit more; I’m trying to remember old colour theory lessons, but I think basically you’d want to add a bit of brown to the yellow, so basically add a little teeny bit of red and a teenier bit of blue and… not certain I’d have to play with these tints and see how they mix. I used to do this with screenprinting ink and acrylic paint… :S but it’s been years since I painted in my first years of art school. I went sculpture after that.

It’s ok to tint suncure - but you need to catalize it for the deeper level to cure. It’s kind of a cool way to go. The surface is hard in minutes, so you can get onto the next layer. Just be gentle with it, because inside it’s still gelling.

It will tone down some when you hotcoat and I think its fine like it is, nice job.

Nice shape and nice yellow tint! On the relief cuts, I agree… just at the ends. It takes some finessing to get it all tucked under that way but standard surfboard fiberglass has a loose enough weave to allow it if you start from the middle and work your way towards the ends as you tuck the lap. For now, you could either leave it (may show as inconsistent color under deck lam), patch and feather with a surform, file or coarse sanding disc before deck lam, or just smooth it out as best you can (surform, file or sanding disc) and tint the deck layer more heavily for a more opaque look. Assuming you double up your deck layer, it may be more opaque anyway. A good test might be to take a scrap of sanded foam, laminate with yellow tint and include some relief cut gaps… overlap with a tinted double layer and see if the gaps are still visible. On tinting UV cure resin - I’ve laminated some fairly solid colors with no problems curing in direct sunlight. I also agree that by the time you hotcoat and gloss your board, the yellow will end up somewhat muted.

I think the blue walls are making the color appear to be brighter. Look at the drips on the tarp. Not so bright. An ugly color for the pinstripe will tone down the bright yellow. Maybe ugly is the wrong word. Think about Forest Green , peach, tan, brown , off white or dull orange pin stripe

…OR …Go loud and proud! That yellow looks great , I love the color. Rock on!

Ray

I like the yellow for the bottom and rails. I’d do a single layer swirl inlay on the deck - different shades of blue - and a full clear cutlap around the rails for the top layer. Add a pinstripe on the top AND bottom (I love those bottom pinlines) at the lap line. Gloss and polish that sweetheart!

Thanks for the advice and kind words. I actually cut individual triangles to fill the relief cuts in the nose. Luckily I saved a little of the original tinted resin and the patches blended in perfectly, wow how often does that happen? Check it out:

You can see the deck tint is slightly lighter than the hull. I thought I had saturated the tint in both batches to the point it wouldn’t take anymore pigment, but I learned I need to precisely measure the amount of pigment or mix up enough to do the whole board at one time.

I also made a fin panel for this board so I could match the pigment in the fin with the pin stripes. It’s a warm brown and the overall board is designed to go along with a pair of trunks I got from Ando last year. Only one quart of resin, forty layers of cloth, some browm pigment and about 3 hours of hard time labor foiling this fin! It’s designed after a Liddle:

And finally the trunks that inspired the board:

Checking out some photos from last Summer, I’m ready for the water to be warm again…

Hi All,

I am looking to do a tint job. Can the tinted fiber be sanded without affecting color? I don’t have much experience glassing so I am thinking may have to sand the lap cuts to make them look good. Thank you.

WP

Nice board. You can add pigment to the tint. It will look great finished with some pins. Are you going to use resin??The waves look good to. I assume it’s Fernandina?? I used to surf there all of the time at an old pier that is now long gone. This was around 1966 or so.

WOW.... I just laminaed today a very similar board ...yellow offcourse  .. hmmmm  weird  :)

anyway , nice job !

I'm with the other guys regarding the relief cuts.  you don't need them!! 

maybe on a really extreme swallow tail but not for the usual board curve.

thanks for the pics..

Lee