Double double sigh,
sigh…somehow everytime our paths cross marz, i seem to find myself having to defend myself against your constant attempts to trivialise my efforts or belittle my credibility…and now you step into my world once again …
you running 2 user names and creating a fictious person down the coast is so typical of the stuff you pull…
Bert you know as well as I know now who it is, sort out your qualms with them not me
now that youve decided to go one step further in your efforts to undermine me and take it into a public arena ,it forces me to defend myself publicy and because this is my area of expertise and i stick to the facts , i wont be losing any sleep doing patch up jobs and covering my tracks…
Geez mate undermine you? You started bagging me personally with the rubbish you wrote about me, I answered back and got all personal too as I think I’ am entitled to
ok marz…reality check…
lets see if you can jog the old memory …
remember the light green boards i was building at one stage,the ones with a fine black line around the rail …???
no? was it the time when your space ship first landed on this planet? (only joking), but no I do not remember honestly
i clearly remember you sitting in your car one cold winters day at doddi’s groyne watching me surf one ,for about an hour you watched me flying along playfully on knee to waist high waves …
ok well here comes the setts on those boards…
i was using 28kg per m3 green dow foam ,made in kuwait ,i was hotwiring 8’ by 2’ 50mm sheets into five 9mm sheets ,then vacuming the lightweight xtr skins onto SL grade eps with a layer of 3oz carbon underneath the carbon would show through on the join line ,creating the black line around the rail…then a layer of 4oz s glass top and bottom …they looked almost the same as what salomon are doing now ,except light green with a black line exposed…they were lighter than current salomons coz of the full SL eps core ,which meant i could run less carbon under the skin coz i didnt have a void to span…
i showed one to sel at surf beach way back when he was working at clearwater …in fact we even shared a peak that day…then over the years i would bump into sel all over the place and show him updates and refinements ,i remember one instance when he was working at 2 surf i pulled one of my boards out of the van and handed it to sel ,he was all over it ,as he held it he said “this is the future bert”…
i have alot of time for sel ,hes eager to learn and a genuine person who has no problems recognising my contribution to surfboard development …
i think you should ring him marz and ask him what he said about me out at smiths one day ,after he started working for salomon…
now ,then theres D MAC another one of salomons r&d shapers , maybe you should ring him and find out what he thought of the boards i was showing him over a decade ago when he was still on the tour ,same , another one of those genuine people ,i would often run into him either up north or down the coast and he was always full of valid questions about the boards i was building…
and webber ,theres another guy you could contact .maybe you could ask him what he knows about me and my history …also some of those boards filtered through maurices hands back in the mid ninties…
then theres chris puls who worked for me back in 1990 glassing and vac bagging ,he went onto to eagle aircraft for a while…go ask some of the engineers at salomon who worked at eagle before starting at salomon…
Geez all I have ever said is I like the way my S-Core board goes, I told you like the normal Joe Blow. I don’t care how something is made as long as it make me surf better etc
i think you guys are tripping on your skitzoid drugs if you think salomon can summons me ,im probably one of a handful of guys in the world who could call salomons bluff on the there so called technology ,dont forget i have a full understanding of all the composites ive worked with in most cases down to a molecular level…and as you alluded to in one of your posts marz…trying to legally shut me up would be like someone trying to stop simon anderson from talking about the things he did and the developments he made in refining the thruster…
what are they gonna do sue me for inspiring them???
***Who has ever said to you that Salomon is going to sue you, again think and read your emails before you come out with comments like this, I said that if you ever bagged me with that bull dung you wrote before about me that I would seek legal advice ***
as for the comments about we can argue about who did it first ,marz we all know dam well who did it first in surfboards …and if it came to the crunch im sure the west oz surfboard industry would stand behind me ,i would even be confident in saying half the salomon crew would be behind me as well ,
the facts are those green boards i was building they were dead and buried and shelved as another one of the many experiments ive done ,in an effort to build lighter stronger boards…long before the thought of salomon even entering the surfboard market was there…
look marz ,the deal is this ,ive never ragged about the performance of salomons,in fact my greenies went off ,way better than a poly p/u …they did have slight deadness ,due to the lack of wood …i have no problem in saying a salomon would out perform any conventional board…the reason i dont build them anymore is performance and durability ,my woodies have way more life and sensitivty coz of the lively characteristics of wood ,and as you know are super durable …
i will say with authority that salomon need to work on their durabilty ,anything with a density of less than 50 kg per m3 is just to light to use as a sandwich…(thatll probably save them a million) and there sandwich layup is in reverse (theres probably another 2 mill)…
another thing as well ,i feel flattered that a company would spend millions of dollars developing something that for years i felt i was pushing alone ,with no help from you marz…
Again there you go insinuating that I work for them, no help from me? Bert you would not know how many orders I have sent you in the past
the thing that irritates me the most marz is the amount of effort you put in to bag me …and try to discredit me at every opportunity…this taj thing is just another prime example ,obviously your fictitous friend wasnt at bears the days i was surfing with taj and checking how his current boards were working for him in an effort to analyse what would work best for him ,and hey guess what its even on film you (beep)…rick was in the water ,twig on the lense and vance on video…i heard some one say it was the “taj and bert show”
some of the crap ive heard from your mouth marz is so far from reality its bordering on dilusional …
its bad enough ,the childish pranks you normally pull ,you may have a bit of clout with a few groms down the beach who think your funny…(even i reckon your sense of humour is second to none) but when you come in here and pull a few cheap shots on your first posts ,in my books youve crossed the line…
Bert you know that I do not surf competivley anymore and have nothing to do with the board riders club or the grommetts, my time is spent with my family, you are the one who has or tried to have the personal delusionary digs at me.
why do you always force me to have to prove myself and my product to you???
Man what are you on? give me some, always force you to prove your product and yourself
i know a few more people you should ring…midget, mctavish ,nat and mike davis …ask them what they think of me and what i do???
marz these are real people and real dates ,so i have no problem you talking to any of them…nor do i fear any backlash or potential embarrisment…
sometimes i think the fact i grew up right under your nose,
there you go again another personal attack, now you are having a go at the size of my nose
set a new direction in surfboard technology ,built up a full epoxy board production unit and was exporting to 5 countries ,yet never advertized on your 2 bit website really pisses you off doesnt it…
***Excuse me Bert, but who came up to me again asking me about advertising on the site and saying look I can’t afford it, but maybe we can come to a deal or something, like I said I do not do buffs like that, and yes it is a two bit website as I do not make two bits of nothing out of it and that is why I’ am contemplating closing it down come the end of this financial year and you of all people should know how many awards it has won, the numerous right up in the paper, the plugs on radio both locally and nationally it recieves etc (now ther you go I buffed myself). ***
im sorry marz if that seems offensive to you ,but you brought it on yourself with the equaliser stunt…for the last 15 years ive been to busy doing R&D working long hours and traveling ,to worry about it each time you had a poke at me ,but now ive semi retired and are spending my days ,surf traveling and doing a little work,ive got plenty of time to give you a poke back…
Mate no pokes I’m not that way inclined. Our wives might divorce us
and you know what i could give you a list of all the overseas reps who were doing my boards ,maybe you could ring them and find out how many boards they sold for me ,and how about a list of all my former retailers ,you could ring them to…
look marz the only thing i really ask from you ,is you allow me to exist in my own world and tone down the harrasment …let go of this cheap stunt …and just accept what i say ,i never go past the facts ,that way theres no comebacks…
i wont hold this thing against you …id like nothing more than to consider you as a friend …i have alot of good friends all around the world crew ive traveled with competed against worked alongside done bussiness with or some other pursuit not related to surfing…everyone who knows me would say im a gentle person…so by making attacks on my credentials ,you really condem yourself ,in the eyes of the people who i deal with…
***It’s hopeless trying to talk with you at times. Making attacks on your credentials? There you go again, I have never touched your credentials even when you are down the beach getting changed, I may look at them and compare them to mine, but hey I have never touched your credentials ***