grimes…where’s your sticktoitedness?!
everyone starts off at square one.
if you love it, keep doing it…just be safe and try to learn.
lol ha ha ha… yeah, sorry ha ha. I didn’t run over him. However the neighbours dog got him…RIP Oskah.
He loved the shaping bay (or just being with me). When I worked at home he used to follow me in each morning and he could come and go as he pleased , I did tread on him on the odd occasion though.
To Yorky, Afoaf, Dlock, Tblank, Greg Tate, and Wakesurfer you guys are right. (Plus I looked at what I wrote. Even though all I said was true, I sound like a fuckin girl) Thank you for the support. One day I’ll get to your level but until then, you’l hear me ask a million questions on this site like no other.
Yorky, next time you see him, kick that dog for me.
ha Ok
Bring it on mate, cool!
I just watched Yorkys vid again, did anyone notice the bird chillen in the upper left hand corner of the video. Parrots are better than rats I suppose. To cool.
LOL you might not want to put my name in the same sentence with these guys, they might take it as an insult. I’m just starting. I just shaped my first 2 boards last week so I am no help on the shaping end of things. But as a FATHER of two I can tell you not to be a FUCKIN QUITTER, now get back to working on your technique.
“As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another” is written in the Biblical Book of Proverbs. Take time out and think about that process. It feels good to create stuff- especially surfboards. The harsh criticism is nothing a good board builder has never heard. Take it and learn from it. Then go back in and make another one. The naysayers will become less frequent- but they will always be there. People love to talk crap on others, and professional surfboard builders have certainly refined this skill.
OK, obivious “shaping process needs” aside, I’ve got one question that needs addressing…How does he stay so clean? NO glasses, no dust collection, and still his arms and even black shorts seem unaffected by the dust. I don’t see a compressor to claen him off? Hmmm…maybe Long Island humidity? I’m not sure, I can drive by my room/factor and I’ll all of a sudden have dust marks all over…
good job Tommy, keep at it, you’ve got a great start to look back on and say, “Look how far I’ve come” by documenting the process as you know it now.
I propose we opost “vintage us” type memoribilia. I’ll take a phot of #1001 I made in '91 and post it up under, “things we’d like to forget, but need to remember” type thread, anyone else got skeletons they’d like to share?
Howzit tg, You don't want to quit and you know it but you asked to be critiqued and you got what you asked for. Now you have a better idea of what you need to do to become a shaper so do it. You have to realie some of us have been in the business for eons and have seen it all. Aloha,Kokua
No Tom, you did not step on anyones toes, but you have given yourself the title of shaper, publically.
I was as bad as you, once, I took my “shapes” to Inter-Island in Honolulu for glassing, when I went to get them, they said “oh, the bumpy ones”, that was 47 years ago, now I am a shaper for Inter-Island.
You can’t stand in one spot and scrub away, a guarantee for low spots, wrapping the screen around a square rail, gives you a square rail with rounded edges.
I always skin my decks first, true them up, this gives me a level playing field to begin with, I don’t have to guess at how much foam I have to work with.
Clean up the outlline with the planer, thin and rocker nose and tail with the planer, turn the rails with the planer, it cannot lie to you.
Never use only one hand to operate your planer, point it as straight ahead as possible, sure to get into deck nose rocker you have to turn it in a more sideways manner, but the bed of it is suddenly only 3" long, the length of the bed is what creates clean lines.
Experienced shapers see flaws from a hundred yards, no kidding.
You’re not in a race, it is finished when it is done, put it aside, go back the next day and take a look, you’ll see things you missed the day before.
I’ll get a set of blanks, skin and true decks, skin the bottoms to thickness, rough out the nose and tail rockers, draw outlines on all of them, cut them out and then start cleaning them up.
i’ll draw an outline and look at it for 30 minutes if it looks odd, bring it back in my room and doctor what didn’t look right, take it back outside and take another look-see, when I’m satisfied, then I’ll cut it out.
Make each one something to be proud of, even if you are only a beginner
"ps. Chrisp is right about there being no money in it so you better love it for the fun. Riding you own shapes is the ultimate."
TBlank, that's exactly what i was getting at. right on!
"Make each one something to be proud of, even if you are only a beginner"
good advice Jim. could have used that when i did my last 2... rushed through part of the process and now i'm fixing stuff instead of riding a new board. never again. perfection first, then speed is my new motto...
TG- remember: acquaintances will shine you. your friends will call bullshit on you...
even if they're friends you just met...
bye the way, welcome to Swaylocks... love to see some photos of your board being ridden
Well, since I was the first to reply to this thread (and also the first to say not so kind words), let me be the first to show you where I came from. Here are a few shots of my very first boards back in 1969 and 1970. Feel free to laugh your head out. We were all beginners once and some of us (like you and me for instance) were not so lucky as to have shapers around to pick up the good moves. France in 1970 was no better than Long Island today…
I spent years doing the wrong things because all I could have access to were Surfer Mag articles and adds (and we all know this is not for real…) Nothing like watching a good shaper/glasser at work.
Come on, have a good laugh.
t g
i have been shaping more than 5 decades throughout that time i have seen it all
i get asked all the time to look at yet onother shaping video i just cant bring myself to look at them anymore
there is only one that i have seen that is true to the art.
so heres my advice
if thats your car in the drive get in it drive day& night if you have to
**till you get to jim phillips shop pester him till he lets you clean his bay **
while your doing it in hale it all take notice of what you see & anythinjg he says
take notice this is a long road ; get his video live it breath it
one tip more
your hands are your callipers feel every board up no matter where you go you see a board looks good feel it up like a good woman
your minds eye is your best tool train it,
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I finally understood something that you said, huie… and I couldn’t agree more!
Balsa, classic photos! In profile they look like giant water skis. My first was a blank of green floral foam and on the first drop the bottom lam peeled off in a sheet. This was in Dec. '68. i was just a kid. I don’t count all the attempts before I really understood the whole process.
Balsa, Clark had an 8’0" M, it came with 6-8-10" of nose rocker and a straight tail, it looks like one of those blanks, he had a huge jointer that the bottom of the tails were pre machined
Jim, I wish I could have had access to ANY blank at the time… Those were done in thick (12") foam panels that were used for building refrigerated trucks. I had to hack through all this foam with whatever tools I had… Michel Barland was the only board-builder in France then and he was blowing his own blanks under a Clark license. But he kept them for personal use. He started selling rejects only one or two years later and I was sooo happy that I could buy something looking like a real blank at last, even if it meant spending a lot of time plugging all holes with spackle… Those of you who started shaping directly REAL blanks were lucky…
Balsa. 2 years ago I was pulling fiberglass off old boards with glassed on fins so you can imagine how bad those turned out. I wish I had picture but I threw them out. They were terrible.
Chrisp you have my word I’ll post some pics up right now.