Shortboard - How Wide is Too Wide?

Welcome on the Roman ship, go ask the guys in Wijk aan Zee, the long and shortboarders don’t like my little board so much,they say:

Why can’t he surf in his own town… Because I can catch everything, big and small, steep and mushy. Yes, I’m Roy! Shortboard Roy.

I like firef  k

Well the compsand never came about, but there is something strange still lurking in the rafters of my garage…

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bn9v8btywftgf5/2011-10-04%2012.32.06.jpg

Looks like this,

Is gonna be this,

Going for foiled thin hard down rails in the rear half.

It will make your butt look smaller.  This could be a real winner with the ladies. =-)

cool on the asym! why not, right? if you have the resources, go for it and see what happens. i know others have said there’s no reason to try, but i learn from personal experience and experimentation…especially when it results in a failure. maybe you’ll come to the exact same conclusions as the posters above, but maybe you’ll learn something from it.

i know the original thread is old, but if it’s too wide to carry, just cut notches in the side LOL

4’11x25, it’ doesn’t not work but it looks like a dog. i would think at a mushy point it could be fun enough (but no, i’d never buy it)

 

That’s an interesting post to me.  I recently surfed a fishy-outlined 6-3 x 24+ x 2.75-3.0 (I don’t know the exact measurements, other than that the width was over 24") that a buddy made, and it was a lot of float for me (navel an inch or two out of the water), but it was really challenging getting it into waves.  I normally surf volume in the same ballpark, thighs just out of the water to ribs in the water, and I had to absolutely sprint-paddle the board into waves, or they would not let me in; this was in waist-high to chest-high, flat-faced, weak waves.  Maybe in better, bigger waves it would have gotten in better, but I’m sure it still would’ve been unusually difficult to get it into better waves as well when compared to other boards.

I thought the reason was probably the rocker/bottom combination, not the width, but maybe someone more expert than me can comment on surface area distribution and how it might affect getting into waves.

More on topic:  once that 24"+ wide board was actually on a wave, and I could put my foot on the gas a little, it was a rockety little powerhouse, like a jet-powered little brick, just flying down the line.  Can’t speak to how it turned as I never got to attempt a turn that day on that board.

I don’t know if I’d go over 23.5" for a long board -so just geussing I would prob not go over 22" 22.5" on a shorty. But being you’re 245 lbs I’d make it 3" thick and just thin rails down sum… or 22.5" and thinner down a tad! 2 7/8"? Or…, you can build a 6’4" and go 2 3/4" - it should probably float you fine uf you leave enough volume in your foil. 24" +wide? Dunno, but it seems it might be ok for straight rides, but terrible for full tilt activities…I geuss it depends on what you’re after? Try 22.5 -23" -that’s middle ground, and prob what you’re looking for?

I’m 235 lbs without a wetsuit, both of these boards are 6’6 x 24" x 2 3/4" quads with a semi deep concave up front to a rolled vee starting before the fins, both tails are 19" wide but very thinned out to remove the corkyness. They turn really quick and are meant to be ridden more with the back foot, but lean forward and they take off, the black one has been my daily driver for the past year now



I was in the San Clemente surf ghetto a couple of weeks back and went thru Bashams, Terry Senate  and a couple of other shops.  I saw lots of sub six footers in the 21— 24 " widths.  Most were at 22".   Primarily “ballooned” short board templates with relaxed rocker.  Quads and Fives.  Lowel

Gotta say there is something to wide and short, I got a twocrows mini, which is about 5’6” x 19.5" x 22.5" x 19.25" x 2.875". By no means is it a high performance beast, but I will tell you this, it is my favorite board to ride, and most versatile up to head high. I have had it for a bit, and will not ride it for a couple of months, than come back to it. 

I have ridden it surrounded by longboards in waikiki, catching smooth shoulder high waikiki waves, North Shore at head high Chuns, and all of Diamondhead. I don’t understand why the board works well, it is some sort of combination of being real wide, short, no rocker, big keel fins, etc… all the elements coming into play. It is the board I take out when I just want to relax, catch some nice waves, and make some big turns.

http://twocrowssurfboards.com/mini_sims_model.html

Jason

It’s a pump for a guy I like, who is also a world class shaper;  But the ones I saw at Terry’s shop were friggin’ outrageous.  I was looking at them and thinking T-Street or Lowers in conditions that could range from wind blown mush to head high glass.   L