singlefin ! but which one ? ? ? ?

hey again!

my next couple projects will all be singles for some friends and myself. im not really sure which fins i should chose for them because my experience is very limited when it comes to different fins. so any input will be greatly appreciated.

the boards:

  1. 6`3 x 21 x 2 3/4 round tail single, pretty similar to the CI MSF but WP a bit further up. low rocker,single con. to a little vee out the tail, pretty down rails, flat deck.

rider is between 150-160. intermediate, basic turns, etc.

  1. same as 1) but only 6`5

  2. 74 x 22 x 2 3/4 Glider kind of thing. its a stretched singlefin template. WP 3" front of center. 79H blank, so pretty malibuish (is this a word?) rocker (that rocker looks so smooth on this blank)

pretty down rails too, should be easily turnable (maybe even from a more forward position) but the priority for this is to trim and glide.

all of those boards will be surfed at mellow beachies and reef breaks with the occasional better day in between.

i can get my hands on pretty much everything from true ames.

what about the skip frye flex for the singles ? which size 7.5 or 8.5?

(has anyone tried the new FCS lonboard fins yet? the soul flex looks pretty cool IMHO.)

i hope you can help me out a bit.

cheers, chris

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Chris,

You may want to do some research on the Spitfire, available from Solosurfer. I’m really liking mine. Just type “spitfire” in the Search box.

Ride on,

Tom

On the first two singlefins you might try one of the norm flex fins from Ture Ames. I’ve ridden it in a handful of different singlefins over the years including the CI MSF. I found it to work better for me than the standard fin that comes in those boards. I think the one I’ve been using is 8". Or even a smaller Greenough 4a or 4c.

This may be a given, but if you go with a standard fin box, you’ve got plenty of options to try out.

Good luck. Let’s see some photos of the boards!

I would check out the moss research spacecake. It’s an AMAZING board. Very versatile from small surf to hollow tubes.

thanks everyone!

i kind of like the outline of the greenoughs, but im not sure about them, read a lot of mixed opinions about the 4A.

ok to get a bit more detailed, just from looking at them:

the skip frye flex seems to be a good alround fin. pretty upright and nice outline. i guess i cant really go wrong with this one.

i would take the 8" for the smaller singles.

is this too big of a fin? would 7.5" be better, does it make a huge difference really concerning turns and hold?

how do the greenough fins compare to the frye flex for example?

anyone ridden both and like to share?

would be very cool!

cheers chris

Hi Trimchris -

No tail widths, rocker or rail thickness/foil is given…

A bigger fin can be moved forward in the box to loosen the board. Grinding away some surface area is also a possibility.

A fin that is too small may create a spin-out special with the option of replacing with a bigger fin being a more expensive remedy.

hey john!

thanks a lot!

hmm, tail witdh for the smaller singles will be about 15 1/2 " @12", 16" for the gliders. both will have round tails.

im not sure about the exact rocker numbers yet, but really little nose rocker to almost no tail rocker. flat deck, volume out on the rails. beak nose.

hope that helps.

cheers

chris

the fry fin is nice, but no flex, the greenoughs have a tad in tip.of all of them made by true ames i find the standard 9" l-flex best , especially if you can get a volan one.

I surf a 7" in my 6’ single fin. Its got hard rails and a pretty wide tail. Goes square off the bottom with no slide. Just food for thought.

Hi -

Regarding fins… obviously everyone has a distinct take on what is appropriate for their own board, style and wave.

I was looking on the True Ames website and noticed several different types, any of which might work for you and the boards you describe.

The Liddle and Frye fins (nearly identical IMO) are vertically oriented narrow tipped fins that are pretty loose in small waves. Rail to rail transitions are easier with this type of fin as you have less blade surface and rake to fight. They are also less stable and can be pushed sideways to the point of spinning out when the going gets bigger and steeper. They are designed for a thin railed board on which the rider utilizes the foil to maintain control.

The Wayne Rich Classic and Norm Flex are similar fins but different from the Liddle/Frye fins in that they have more rake and more tip area. The WR is somewhere between the Liddle/Frye and Norm Flex template.

I have the Norm Flex in a board I ride and it has a nice feel coming out of turns. Not as much flex as a Harbour flex fin (which seem to wash out on me.) The Norm Flex has a solid feel with a bit of twang in it. If viewed from above, the raked tip flexes in such a way as to approximate a rudder. It would also be an easy cut down if it feels too big.

I’ll stick my neck out and make a specific recommendation… try the 8" Norm Flex.