What is the smallest board that you’ve seen that will allow you to dip your toes off. I have a beefy twin fin fish that allows me to stretch five (if I hold my tounge just right) if the waves aren’t too steep. It got me thinking; What shape/template could you use to build something that would allow you to get out on the nose? but keep the length right down. Could you use a good nose riding longboard template and reduce the overall length down to say 6’8"?
I’ve let loose on my 5’8" fish once you get going, it’s not that big of a deal. You gotta have everything just right, and its not gonna happen everytime though. I think the key to getting both feet up on smaller boards is speed. You gotta be really going.
On that note, I’ve seen people noserise shortboards for a split second or two and either fall off or fling their way back. I see people doing it on fish all the time.
Aloha
Bryan
i have tried on my shorter boards a lot of times and have never had any success it always end up with me runing off the end of the baord. the shortest i have ever been able to do it on is a 7’10.
I can (and sometimes do) cheater 5 my high performance thruster if the section is right.
but has anybody tried building a short board that could noseride. Something with a lot of volume up front, and the wide point ahead of center. I’m thinking of building something kinda like the little disk things you see in the summer mush but was wondering what i could do to make it rideable from the nose. What about spooning out the nose, or bellying the bottom would stuff like this work on something as small as a 6’8". I guess the main idea is to create low pressure around the fin so it pulls the tail down but how is this effectivley achieved and can it be done on a short board.
i have a 6’ single fin that gets pretty radical on the nose every once ina while. 18"n x 21.5"w x 17"t x 12"p with a big 9" paddle fin on the tail set pretty far up at like 11". i think the most important thing is to get some major planing surface at the nose. i can get ten over on mine without sliding out sometimes if im lucky, but thats operator error as it is mostly due to inside/outside rail weighting when it slides. i think you could go as small as 5’6" if youw anted to, and im sure that round rails and a decent fin would make noseriding alot easier. in my opinion the concaves and spoons and step decks are mostly gimmicks and ego boosts whose effects only help good noseriders noseride better, but are pretty much inneffective unless your really really good. im not a good noserider but one of the best longboarders i know and seen noserideshis 9’ performance 2+1 better then most noseride ont here big 10’ single fin logs with tons of concave and tail flip. its all about going out there and practicing and practicing and practicing. stay stoked.
I nose ride my 6ft2 all the time oh and in semptember sessions rob machardo hangs 10 for about 3 seconds on a 6ft3 or less.josh.
The Harbour spherical revolver model (1969 template with modern updates) is totally noserideable - mine is 7’4" but at my weight (150) I should be on a 7’0".
Have you looked into the Compact Disc, made by Walden? Also do a search for “Stepchild” - one of Steve Brom’s new shapes. The owner (sorry, forgot his name) said he could noseride it… It looks like a shrunken down Con Ugly…
waxfoot
yep, the two boards mentioned above are goood examples of short noseriders.of the two, i would go with brom’s machine…
Characteristics that make a shorty a good noserider is counter intuitive to it’s wave catching, it’s quick turning, and it’s ability to follow the surfer’s command.
Soooooo… you get a short, bad paddling, late wave catching SLUG of an unresponsive board that noserides OK with a cheater sizing!
Have a look at Tenover’s red board.
I’ve had short, wide, discs from 5’10 x 21 to 7’ x 22, up to logs at 9’ x 23", and the longer it becomes, the better it is as an allaround surfboard.
thanks guys the stepchild boards looked very interesting. It’s a good point about having to sacrifice other qualities simply for nose riding, i was just curious if it could be done effectivly. I guess there’s only one way to find out. I’ll let you know how it turns out. Thanks for everyones help.
the stepchild is a fun board
check out the new bear wombat the pics of beau young hangingten on it are awesome we got the first one ever shaped into our shop the other day it was meant for beau, but he took no2 instead i was looking to get it, but one of my buddies bought it, though he will let me take a template! :o)
I came across a board shaped by Hank Byzak (under the Swami’s label) with the name “Squirt” penciled on the stringer. It is definetly a canidate for a short noserider. It is 7’ 3" long with a rounded longboard (kind of like walden cd) nose 22" wide with a pin tail and 2+1 fins with center box. The board intrigued me soo much I bought it. I found the 7" rainbow cutaway fin works best moved forward in the center box. The board has a slight concave under the nose. I had never heard of Hank Byzak prior to seeing this board and thought the board was from a local shaper. Boy was I wrong. It has a very unique ride but is definetely capable of nose riding. Any one else ever come across one of these?
Oh com’on man, my 7’3" BIC has a single concave nose back about 3’, and 3" rail channel concaves also.
You’re talking just variance of a funboard, those boards for easy paddling and stable surfing for beginner surfers!
Dime a dozen, nothin special!
Besides, if you can’t make it to the nose on a 9’6"er, you prolly DON’T belong up there anyways.
Why don’t you just make a 5’ long, 26" wide board with the widepoint a foot ahead of center. Then even YOU can cheater five while bottom turning!
Nice board, and you ride it as a twin also!! Kudos to you!
My Bic has a 17.5" nose width, should I post a pic of that unique board?
I also ride it as a twin, with 6" tall x 5" base G-10 fins. Alas, that one is only a flat bottom nose, no concave.
Hank used to have his own label (Pure Fun) out of Oceanside. Had one of his 7’2" fun boards, it was OK nothing special. I was south of Tamarack on Thurs, and saw a couple of kids riding boards in the 6-6 1/2’ range with very wide rounded noses. They where getting extremely long and fast cheater five’s on 3-5’ sections. These boards had thruster setups, little rocker, and narrow tails. Like Lee stated, they paddled slow and could only take off very deep. These would probably be fun in uncrowded breaks (anybody will have the wave before you do) and only in max 5’ waves. If you weigh more than 160 lbs, it probably won’t work for you either. Pretty limited use in my opinion.
Hey Lee,
That T&C is a real pig. Rolled bottom, concave nose, obviously tracky by the fin placement. Doesn’t really get working until it get chest high and above. But then again, I could ride a door and have fun when it gets chest high and bigger.
-Jay