also, forgive me huckleberry for droppin in your post !
Thanks
[img_assist|nid=1061542|title=drunken sardine|desc=|link=none|align=left|width=342|height=257]Dont know if this thread is still alive, but I thought I’d share my latest project with square rails. It’s what happens when you mate an alaia and a mini simmons… with a bonzer uncle. Hard square 1/2" high alaia style rail with a twist into a chined rail through the last 1/3 of the board to give it rail rocker. It works on my finless boards, so why not?
Dims are 4’10"x20.25x2.375. Carbon rails, cork, resin x, paint… its plenty stiff, next time no carbon to keep it simple.
I rode it yesterday in chest high N. Jersey. What blew my mind was how it would slide like an alaia when flat and then hold tight when on rail. I’m no Occy, but it wasn’t a big deal to sink the square rail almost up to the nose on turns. I’ve got no insight into how square rails work, but maybe I’ll have some ideas after a couple more rides. One thing for sure, it has that weird alaia glide where you don’t feel the water, just glide- very hover craft like-maybe it’s the lack of drag from the square rail? Can’t say for sure. …might try a square railed shortboard next.
wow. interesting board. back end looks like a boogie board with the chamfer. Fins look like bonzer runners? More pics please.
Been toying with the idea of combining the double edge square rail of alaias with a parrallel outline with rely low rocker, like Sage Joskes vector but with a bit more foam and float. But instead of cutting a big swallow in it for control I was thinking of adding som channels and a single Joey Cabell style keel. For going straight realy fast no spinning and sliding, just trim speed ín small but shallow conditions.
Hi from Brazil !
Im thinking to make my second HWS Sup, but this one is especially for surf.
The last one, I made with square rails, and I was thinking to make the second with square rails too.
How do you think this is gonna surf ?
Some pics …
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Im constantly putting my hands on rails of boards that come through the factory i work at. Lots of boards have square rails sort of like the (full rail)
refraction. I went on a square rail trip after wondering what the kookboxes would have surfed like with modern rocker. They work well in specific conditions. I think they work best in smaller surf,bigger boards and when speed is the need.
The release is tricky to handle at first, not a forgiving rail by any means. Where a soft rail has that wrap and constant contact with the wave, the squared rail is breaking away. Larger,barreling waves require more control and softer rails seem to fit better. My friends that tried the square rails in bigger, hollower waves than I reported some incredible and somewhat scary rides. On the edge of control.
I think they are a valid design. Joel beat me to the name. Rounded square rails, a step beyond boxy. One last thing. They are about the same to ride,skill wise, as real knifey 50/50’s.
I made a boxy rail, but I kinda rounded the top corners… I didn’t like them. But my board was two and a half thick. I think they are ok on thinner board’s though?
been thinking about a square rail on prone paddleboards. They don’t need to hold on a face since they’re flat water paddled. Thinking the square rails would just releash and have very limited drag. Anybody have experience or thoughts?
How would boxy rails work on a fish board? I’m not doin them on my current build. But I plan to build sum variations ltr on. So are boxy rails good to be thin vs thick?