about the horizontal (rail to rail) stripes i see in many boards these days. looks like resin work to me - not airbrushing. does anyone have video that shows how this is done? or briefly explain the process?
here’s jed and his pop with a beautiful example…
kirk
On pop outs they use paint
On a regular lam I saw a guy do it with the hot coat edit: like second hot coat
some do it in the gloss coat I hear
carefull sanding
its seems like if you masked it off after the first lam then painted it, then hot coated it. it would turn out something like that.
maybe a sanding before masking would make it turn out even more clear.
i was thinking of doing stripes like that but thinner, closer, and the full length in black and white
If you want the slight raise you sand out your hot coat then tape off the stripe carfully paint on the resin then gloss the board after its kicked. that how CC, Mccallum, and alot of the soul guys.
…the other guy I dont know who is but CC is only a shaper so L. Crow was the guy who did all the stripes in the CC s and other well named boards
hey kirk,
not sure if this is how the big boys do it, but here is what i did recently.
-lam the board. make sure it is fully cured (i let mine sit over night)
-tape off your stripes (be sure to use 3m #233 tape) and burnish the edges with a razor blade or tongue depressor.
-mix up your colors for stripes using lam resin. paint (or squeegee) your stripes. dont go too thick. just get even coverage.
-once the stripes have gelled pull your tape. if you have any adhesive residue just wipe it with paint thinner (do not use acetone!!)
-once the stripes are cured, hot coat as usual. be careful when sanding not to burn through to the stripes.
brasco
…you re a risky guy
the stripes are done in the H Coat
hey reverb
could you please explain to me what was “risky” about the way i did it. i didnt have anyone around to show me how to do it, so i just gave it a shot. luckily it came out ok, but i dont want to be going about this the wrong way in the future.
if i understand you correctly, i should do the stripes in sanding resin as opposed to the lam resin? and then do i hot coat over top of the stripe as normal?
thanks,
brasco
ps - kirk disregard my erroneous reply to your ? sorry.
The ‘‘traditional’’ method, was ALWAYS in the gloss. Color work first, light sanding, then clear coat, followed by rubout and polish.
id bet money that knoll was done with airbrush.
the Resin bands are done same as a resin pinline.
mask off the area you want the band then using gloss resin add enough pigment so that it doesnt get see through.
kick it off and paint it on thin so it wont seperate and will not create a huge bump. as soon as its painted on and flowed out pull the tape and then gloss over.
…no, no
do it on the hot coat after all
thenslightly sand and the gloss
Bill
would that be construed as a double gloss coat?
one color and one clear on top?
these i did with resin. i do alot for a local shaper in North county s.d.
ironic how the one resembles the shorts of a certain period.
it has 19 black resin bands with 3 inch gaps between each 3 inch band. it was my thesis on resin bands.
it will live in a brand new shop opening in japan soon.
i really enjoy dong bands it has opened a new eliment of thngs i can do with color.
thetrick is getting them to line up straght at the apex of the rail
Hey Brasco,
It’s risky to stripe over a lam as opposed to a sanded hotcoat because of the imperfections in the finish of the lam–as you’ve no doubt experienced, laminations can feature any combinations and degrees of bumps and squiggles, so you run the risk of bleeding under your tape. It’s much more likely to get crisp lines over a sanded hotcoat. It’s also easier to fix any bleed-throughs/mistakes over a sanded hotcoat, as they can be sanded off.
Jamie
...the other guy I dont know who is but CC is only a shaper so L. Crow was the guy who did all the stripes in the CC s and other well named boards
sorry I should of said have them done. I glass boards for a living so no disrespect. Crow is the man
Vader
nice work, I will have to try them stripes someday
question, will the bottom of that striped board have an uneveness about it as also the deck?
or is there another thing to dwell on?
thanks to all for the help…sorry kirk didnt mean to steal your thread.
one last question… what if i’m not doing a gloss coat?
brasco
I would think to do the base color in the lam or sand coat then do the strips on top of the sand coat and then litely sand them
??? my guess
if by uneven you mean a bump, No, cause i spent a long time sanding each band down as flush as possible and then double gloss before polish.that is why it is key to make resin for pinlines and bands as color rich as possible.
The key to doing stripes is to get a clean edge. You can’t do that on a lam because the cloth weave isn’t flat enough and it will always bleed under the tape. Doing them in gloss or sand resin over the hotcoat will give a clean edge, but sanding so that there isn’t any bumps isn’t easy - especially at the rail line. Using two gloss coats will reduce the “bump” of these like Vader says. It still comes up like a resin pinline to me. If weight isn’t a big issue, I paint stuff like this on the sanded hotcoat, lam over it with 4 oz. clear, hotcoat and gloss. If weight is an issue, do it on the blank but seal it first to get a clean tape line.