now on kickstarter - no frame hollow wooden boards
Link to kickstarter proposal:
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Vineyard Board Builders website:
Looks like a Danny Hess rip off. Solid rails foam core, ply skins.
In The Video he claims they are hollow without a foam core. Said something about being a composite, without an internal frame.
Of course the only way to see what they are really made of is by doing a Chainsaw test. As Business he would be better off making Stand Up Paddle boards
If you read through his material, I believe he says he uses parabolic balsa rails with a foam stringer between wood skins.
More power to this guy if he gets what he’s trying to do, but I don’t think it’s anything unique.
I don’t know the weight of the woods Danny and this guy use, but the boards I’ve done with ply skins are quite a bit heavier than my Balsa skinned compsands. Only problem is that I can only get the balsa in 4’ long lengths. Buying the bigger and longer pieces, then ripping them into 1/8 strips is not cost effective. Plywood skins are definitely harder than balsa, but they add extra weight.
Is this guy really in Alabama? If so, he must have a long wait between test runs of his designs.
he says he’s from maine (probably was following Grain) but his address on his Kickstarter page says Enterprise, AL.
Foolishliy I’ve been an active supporter on kickstarter over the eyars
from the infamous Galileo photomount which I gave to my brother to the Pebble watch and the “Black Shorts” movie on the Da Hui
I kind of like helping someone with a really interesting and unique idea get started
my family and coworkers benefit from my adversion to saving
crowdsourcing and micro loans are really the future for innovation
I’m not particularly a fan of these kinds of projects though (Grain even did one), they are just like those standing at the stoplight with the fish nets trying to send their little league teams somewhere.
all I can say is “sharktank”
If you read through the site, he says he started with hollow, but is now using a foam stringer. I’m thinking it’s a foam core like Danny Hess eventually ended up with.
The only kickstarter projects I’ve given money to were musicians I know, and the Rick Griffin movie.
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I cannot say with any certainty but, it seems like a single 3-4" wide foam stringer or maybe twin 2-3" wide foam stringers (maybe 2.0-2.5 pcf @ 40-60 psi min. compressive strength) between the wood skins might stabilize the design when combined with parabolic balsa rails (perimeter stringers).
An interesting concept to play with just the same …
Danny started that way and ended up with full cores. I think that the full core has a more value than just support. It also reduces the amount of air that can expand or contract from changing temps.
We’ve found that a strong skin can be used with a super light foam core and make a very light and strong board. We just don’t have easy access to a light plywood, so I used door skins from Home Depot.