In the illustration below are the three angles a surfboard makes in space. Rather than invent some new terminology, or use existing marine terminology, I thought I just take a quick poll to find out what language is actually being used if any to describe the angles. (I want to continue the Rocket Science series, and I will need to reference these angles.) I have asked a lot of surfers about this and there seems to be no consensus (at all) as to what to call them; all were aware of the angles once pointed out, all were aware of their importance when surfing, but few had a name for any of them. Of course, I don’t either, other than those given to them in marine science, A-yaw, B-pitch and C-roll (I think that’s right?) But, I not that sure how meaningful they are in this context. (Especially yaw, its a good term, but its not one encountered too often in surfing.) My apologies for this exercise. I realize I might be the only geek in the bunch who seems to enjoy this stuff. Kevin
In the illustration below are the three angles a surfboard makes in space. > Rather than invent some new terminology, or use existing marine > terminology, I thought I just take a quick poll to find out what language > is actually being used if any to describe the angles. (I want to continue > the Rocket Science series, and I will need to reference these angles.)>>> I have asked a lot of surfers about this and there seems to be no > consensus (at all) as to what to call them; all were aware of the angles > once pointed out, all were aware of their importance when surfing, but few > had a name for any of them.>>> Of course, I don’t either, other than those given to them in marine > science, A-yaw, B-pitch and C-roll (I think that’s right?) But, I not that > sure how meaningful they are in this context. (Especially yaw, its a good > term, but its not one encountered too often in surfing.)>>> My apologies for this exercise. I realize I might be the only geek in the > bunch who seems to enjoy this stuff.>>> Kevin yaw, pitch, and roll are really the only way to describe motion in three dimensional space. substituting “turn” for “yaw” (rotating on a vertical axis) probably would be clearer to most, even if not technically correct.
Is that the diagram for the 6’3" R from the Clark catalog?
Is that the diagram for the 6’3" R from the Clark catalog? Nice call! It sure is (63R). Kevin
In the illustration below are the three angles a surfboard makes in space.>>> Of course, I don’t either, other than those given to them in marine > science, A-yaw, B-pitch and C-roll (I think that’s right?) But, I not that > sure how meaningful they are in this context. (Especially yaw, its a good > term, but its not one encountered too often in surfing.) Kevin - I agree, yaw, pitch, and roll all make sense if you want to talk about movement in 3 dimensions… Although, in a surfing context I think you have to specify them relative to the water surface (not just angles in space) and its movement, which changes and thus makes the normal terminology somewhat ambiguous. I.e. a board with 45 degrees of down pitch might be a)perfectly in trim for a takeoff, or b) pearling, depending on the steepness of the wave.
Kevin - I agree, yaw, pitch, and roll all make sense if you want to talk > about movement in 3 dimensions… Although, in a surfing context I think > you have to specify them relative to the water surface (not just angles in > space) and its movement, which changes and thus makes the normal > terminology somewhat ambiguous. I.e. a board with 45 degrees of down pitch > might be a)perfectly in trim for a takeoff, or b) pearling, depending on > the steepness of the wave. Yes. But for now I just wanted to know what the standard terminology was, if any existed. So now when we look at a picture and someone says, “Dude, check out his roll and pitch!” we know what to look at. But your right. There’s a lot of terms in common usage which sort of cover these ideas, e.g. using the rail, stalling, etc… It just that they’re had to quantify, that is, they tend to be qualitative terms. By the way, I am not suggesting that they be used in the line-up… unless you personally enjoy being rolled, pitched and yawed. Kevin
yaw, pitch, and roll are really the only way to describe motion in three > dimensional space. substituting “turn” for “yaw” > (rotating on a vertical axis) probably would be clearer to most, even if > not technically correct. Awe come on guys …we figured this stuff out 30 years ago.“Yaw” is the catcall laugh that we yelled when a Bro. wiped out.“Pitch” is the beer bottles that threw at roadsigns,kooks and hodads.“Roll” is what we did to green illegal herbal substances before inhaling them.“Motion” is the way that you made a fool out of yourself on the dance floor.“Dimensional Space” was the area that you inhabited after being arrested for perpetrating any of the afformentioned crimes.
Yes. But for now I just wanted to know what the standard terminology was, > if any existed.>>> So now when we look at a picture and someone says, “Dude, check out > his roll and pitch!” we know what to look at.>>> But your right. There’s a lot of terms in common usage which sort of cover > these ideas, e.g. using the rail, stalling, etc… It just that they’re had > to quantify, that is, they tend to be qualitative terms.>>> By the way, I am not suggesting that they be used in the line-up… unless > you personally enjoy being rolled, pitched and yawed.>>> Kevin I’ve been rolled and pitched many times. Not sure I’ve ever been yawed by a wave! (Maybe I just wasn’t looking…) Reminds me of my favorite surf graffiti: “Never look back when you’re in the tube, or you might get a thick lip between the eyes.”
Awe come on guys …we figured this stuff out 30 years ago.“Yaw” > is the catcall laugh that we yelled when a Bro. wiped > out.“Pitch” is the beer bottles that threw at roadsigns,kooks > and hodads.“Roll” is what we did to green illegal herbal > substances before inhaling them.“Motion” is the way that you > made a fool out of yourself on the dance floor.“Dimensional > Space” was the area that you inhabited after being arrested for > perpetrating any of the afformentioned crimes. Cleanlines, You hit the nail on the head with that one, to many of those motions back then Mark Scott
Cleanlines,>>> You hit the nail on the head with that one, to many of those motions back > then>>> Mark Scott For sure, man! Like I`ve used these same proven motions to stare at the cellular structure of polyurethane foam for like hours or whatever. Totally creative! Dharmon McKintley, Magna De In Halate Univ.of THC Sciences
For sure, man! Like I`ve used these same proven motions to stare at the > cellular structure of polyurethane foam for like hours or whatever. > Totally creative!>>> Dharmon McKintley, Magna De In Halate Univ.of THC Sciences Thats funny.Check this…“Displacement” is when the fat chick that you picked up in the bar takes up 3/4 of your waterbed.“Foil” is the ploy that you used to convince mom and dad to let you take the mexico trip.We also used foil to get better t.v. reception on the antenna…also used inside the bowls of hash pipes.“Vector” was the name of a famous pervert that hung around the Windansea parking lot.This could go on and on but I dont want to waste space on Swaylocks forum.Its like toooo far out man.
Thats funny.Check this…“Displacement” is when the fat chick > that you picked up in the bar takes up 3/4 of your > waterbed.“Foil” is the ploy that you used to convince mom and > dad to let you take the mexico trip.We also used foil to get better t.v. > reception on the antenna…also used inside the bowls of hash > pipes.“Vector” was the name of a famous pervert that hung around > the Windansea parking lot.This could go on and on but I dont want to waste > space on Swaylocks forum.Its like toooo far out man. Hey, it`s like MEDICINAL, dude. Er… I mean the daily verbage in Swaylocks. Far out! Dharmon
Thats funny.Check this…“Displacement” is when the fat chick > that you picked up in the bar takes up 3/4 of your > waterbed.“Foil” is the ploy that you used to convince mom and > dad to let you take the mexico trip.We also used foil to get better t.v. > reception on the antenna…also used inside the bowls of hash > pipes.“Vector” was the name of a famous pervert that hung around > the Windansea parking lot.This could go on and on but I dont want to waste > space on Swaylocks forum.Its like toooo far out man. Hey, it
s MEDICINAL, dude! Er... I mean my daily blast of Swaylocks verbage... herbage? Whatever... it
s all cool! Dharmon, poster child for joyful memory loss
Hey, it
s MEDICINAL, dude! Er... I mean my daily blast of Swaylocks > verbage... herbage? Whatever... it
s all cool!>>> Dharmon, poster child for joyful memory loss Sorry about that. I forgot I wrote the extra posts! Oor was it just one post? I`ll have to go back and look (again). This is totally what I love about Swaylocks. Soooo bitchin! Dharmon, smokin keyboarder