DP is a tiny ski manufacture as compared to Atomic. Atomic one of the world largst and most sucessful They have some very high paid engineers working on ski and snow board design. The ski industry as a whole are years ahead of The surf industry in composit construction. Atomic used Texallium for at least ten years. Skis also use carbon glass Titainium sheets rubberized compound and different species of wood all in an attempt to make playing with gravity more fun.
In another thread Harverd posted something on a new composite board being tested that uses a lot of carbon in construction. Check it out.
The DP skis do look good. I would like to demo some next time I go skiing. I had an Art Gallery in Park City Utah for many years.
yeah, not a tex fan, can’t see what it does better than carbon or aramid–in skis or surfboards. If it’s asthetics only, than why the hell even use it and risk delamming your board over heat retention. I do see some quality glass jobs w/it, I like the black rails with tex belly, those are cool I have to admit.
Atomic probably has their recipe dialed, the stuff definitely is marketed to the race/ 1980’s schusser demographic
I went on to ebay and saw all sorts of funky white carbon fiber weaves, crazy some of the fabrics out right now.
Some cf with a blue texallium stomp patch. Using up the last oneula gave me. Got another board with silver that is coming out nice. will post pics of that after fin boxes are in.
pics coming out of the bag bottom and then top with patch. filler coat for sanding. This thing is getting a full wooded rail wrap. should be one of a kind cool. 1 of 4 teenage kids who made boards with me this summer made it. He is a really good surfer and should rip the S$!t out of it. Very stoked kids who are very appreciative and interested in building boards by hand. There is hope.
It is pulling peel ply. it is like Christmas opening a present. I use peel ply on glass vac bag jobs. I have been doing a bunch this summer on SUPs. Coming out so sweet.
It looks dull initally but a minor sanding and filler coat it really pops. My silver texallium board is actually for you. I saw you had surgery and wanted to make a special board for your recovery. Hope it has enough volume for you. Should be done in the next two weeks. It has all the bells and whistles.
Wow! I won’t be in the water for a while so you have lots of time. I actually have a new compsand board that I finished but haven’t tried and a new XPS stringerless board that is almost finished. I was working on the XPS the day I went in to the hospital. I was trying to get it finished to give it a go with all that great surf we had in mid May. Probably should have rested after surfing that day instead of pushing myself.
I’m getting close to the 3 month mark. I’ll be staying away from swimming or surfing until I hit 6 months. Then it will be swimming and other upper body work until I fell ready for surfing. Maybe start with kicking with fins and a small kicking float sometime before 6 months, but no arm work. I’m doing a lot of walking and it’s up and down St Louis hts.
You’ve been a really great friend to both Bernie and I. God Bless you for all the things you do for so many people.
I get the cheapest peel ply they sell at fiberglass supply. It is thickness and heat rated. So I get the thinnest and good for 250 degree F. My cure room gets no hotter than 130F . It is 5 feet wide so I can easily get lots of boards from it. I have mine folded for shipping or the 5 foot length makes it expensive. Not quite sure how you want ot use it.
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Econo-Ply J 1.6 oz. X 60" is a peel ply designed for low temperature commercial applications where cost savings is the primary concern. Econo-Ply J works well with most room temperature and low temperature curing resins and is easily suited to marine, transportation, recreation and wind power industries. 1.6 oz./yd.² (55 g/m²) Thickness .003 in. (.008 cm) Maximum Service temperature 250° F. (121 C)
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I didnt explain something with the peel ply. It comes off easily. Which ever side of the board you work on, you remove it from the middle out to the rails so you don’t rip the glass off the rail. That’s why it is being split down the middle. just start with a razor blade and carfully start a section. I have never had an issue when used.
If you ever want to try one come and get some or come over and use my eqiupment
just found it yesterday in my roadrunner spam folder for some reason as I was cleaning out my inbox
If you are still playing around with this aluminized glas stuff I recently ordered a bunch of gold and blue texalium that I was going to use in place of that woven bamboo mat for bottom skins you clued Harry and I on so many years ago, but with all this discussion of cosmetics versus strength I’m re-thinking the idea and may go back to the woven bamboo.
I thought that Stretch was puttting it on his surftech SUPs for lightness and strength instead but maybe I was wrong and it was just for cosmetics although I thought Stretch wasn’t that type of builder.
I’ll try and stop by and drop it off if you have a need for it and maybe get your help with this totally collapsed deck Firewire I have whihc seems liek a much bigger project than I can handle in our little garage operation.
When you gave me all that texallium I just thoght it was the blue shinny stuff. It is like single layer cardboard that holds soda cans. Feels like 10 oz glass. Then the silver stuff was in the package you gave me and I initally thought is was to protect the blue stuff but realized it is lighter weight texallium. Seems like 4-5oz weight. not sure though.
When you mentioned that stuff about stretch I had already bagged the bottom tex stuff and cork on top and was building out wood rails 4 weeks prior. Fiqured Bernie would think I was a copy cat. I don’t follow stetch’s stuff at all except for the top dollared used boards that are on craisglist.
Still trying to get this cork stuff off the ground with no luck. I dropped your name with your shaper friend on the NS and I never heard back. Tried 5 other famous shapers for a1 year exclusive deal and no interest. Oh well.
Bring your board by anytime, should be an easy fix.
maybe try Carl Olson (Two Crows/Wailua Sugar Mill) he used to post on Swaylocks allot
or Kyle Bernhardt of Country Feeling Surfboards who was into “Green” boards years ago
My next door neighbor Moki of Moki-Boards(old time shaper from the 70’s-80’s) saw your Gemini a couple weeks ago and was real excited and impressed about the skin.
I should bring him over and introduce him to you as he’s retired now (federal fireman and shaping) but makes boards every now and then on special order. He used to be pretty famous on this side of the island back in the day.
Another possibility is to check out Mitch in the Pearl City Industrial Park (formerly Sasquatch Surfboards in Ewa)
