the death of surfoils

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I suppose we could all sit around and ponitificate until we were old men heade for our death beds. 

Since I have a lot of life left in me and a pile of orders tacked to my shaping room wall, I will be brief.

People wouldl rather grab a bodyboard.

They don’t hurt as much when they hit you, are harder to ding, and float just fine.

They’re flexible and offer up some interesting approaches to riding a wave. Just ask Tom Morey.

Morey has been there, done this, done it better for cheaper.

I suggest you take an example from the best professional athletes in the world:

Develop a very short term memory so you can forget a momentary defeat and focus on to the next ball being served up.

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[quote="$1"]

coming from somone who is prepaired to steal others designs

i say serves you f###king right

 

 

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Huie had sent a template to someone who lives closer to me, I asked that person for a copy who said they would check if it was OK with HUie, Huie asked me for money. I said no thanks. That was all.

So now Im a thief.

 

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......so you'd take one for free , without asking the designer , but aren't prepared to pay for an original at a "cost" price to cover the materials and postage ?......this is a very common problem......if someone decides to share be thankfull, because there is never any obligation to do so......

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[quote="$1"]

......so you'd take one for free , without asking the designer , but aren't prepared to pay for an original at a "cost" price to cover the materials and postage ?....

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For the third time....I asked the guy if I could get a copy, he asked Huie.

 Huies been asked, the designer was consulted, he knew.

 There was no attempt to 'take' anything without permission.   I shouldve explained that I was after an Egg template from a guy in the US and not Huies, but I went to the wrong thread, thats why I had no intention of paying for anything of Huies.

.FFS, You need to read whats written over and over again and absorb at least a little amount.

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It's quite possible that this thread could become a discussion about  "intellectual property" , and at what point does "sharing" become simply giving away valuable intellectual property ? There's a lot of valuable knowledge out there in the public arena , and that belongs to everyone , but,   where is the line in the sand ?  ....worth a comment in this "computer age " maybe......

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 You were happy to take my money but only until i said no and then youve been wronged.

 kayu, where did everyone get their first template from or technique for glassing ? Is everything original or did they come from someone else ?  And who gets paid for their original ideas ?? 

 

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Maybe that's the the point Surfoils.  Is anything innovative anymore ?....have we reached the point where the need for improvement has been lost ?.....if that's the case , then skill is being devalued and taken for granted.....what then ?......

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Where did everyone get their templates, etc? Well I made my 1st one from a curved stick, an 11" nose in 76', quite a few years b4 Geoff did a narrow nose and every single board I have done since has been from that curve. I lost count at 20,000 handshapes a few years ago, so dont think everyone copies or needs popouts, they have their place but you are way out of your depth here.

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25,000 Handshapes x $100 per shape = $2,500,000

35 years = $71428.57 per year pre tax

Minus you Tax Base of $24.683.57

$46,745 post tax

$898.94 Take home pay weekly

$179.79 Daily after taxes

2.75 boards per day

Assuming you take week-ends off?

 

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$6,001 - $37,000 15c for each $1 over $6,000
$37,001 - $80,000 $4,650 plus 30c for each $1 over $37,000
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that sounds impressive doesn't it, well when it comes down to it,it's all I know and lets go for 25,000, hardly ambitious, H. because you should be our union guy , with those figures, how about lost count at 50 trips, and barrells and beautiful chicks, countless surreal moments, a beautiful , sometimes troubled life, that has plenty of miles left, plenty.and every board will still come from that 1st curve, garuanteed.

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True

Revised above post from 20,000 to 25,000 units

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oops, double post

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Im reading this post i know that I should keep my big mouth shut, but being the convict that I am I cant.  I count it a honour to know huei and cant wait to get down to see him and his missus real soon, she has been a godsend to me in helping me deal with a particular difficult time in my life as a parent, she is almost like a second mum to me in the knowledge she has passed on to me and my wife and I are in her debt.  Huei has helped me more than anyone in following my dream of shaping boards for my boy in the hope that I might be able to teach him down the track as he is not suited to school at all, I hope to teach him a little bit of  knowledge that will really help him find work in the industry, as at age six he can already sand a board dead flat with sandpaper after I do some plane work on it, he loves working with his hands, god bless his little cotton socks off.

 

The point of what Im saying is you dont f### with those feed you.  You treat them with the respect they deserve, my old man taught me this and I hope to teach this to my boy.  I understand where huei is coming from and I find this thread disturbing to read and it seems to me you might be reaping what you deserve. 

 

I say no more and dont really care if anyone thinks Im a dropkick for saying it.

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Got to say I agree with di99er 100 %

 

Even tho it may not be my place to say so,at the risk of being labelled a “convict” I will anyway.

Surffoils, what Huie and Harris & others have said is true, and it maybe a good lesson to learn.

You reap what you sew . There are many pro’s sharing a wealth of knoledge here, free of charge.

We should show them the respect they deserve.

 

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Yeah surfoils your a cunt Huie wanted you to pay and you owe him big timwe for being such a noce guy and having shared his plan . You cunt you, die you scabby poofter yo should be BANNED

 Rok on Huie you da hard man KING of sways