we can learn from anyone, even people you think are grumpy, and, maybe, they might be the stoked people ever, you just need to listen with an open mind
I don’t know who said it, but “speak your mind, even if your voice quivers”
I will say though that I grew up surfing with a few guys that made John Scott look like a choir boy. Ever heard of Hazard Canyon?? If you know; You know. I managed to get along with most of those SLO boys. Since some of my “Valley” Bros were full on 4x4 Pot Smugglers; a little Mexican Weed went far. But old habits die hard. To this day I still carry a Louisville Slugger under the seat. Lowel
Funny though how people who may have visited a place once or maybe even actually paddled out; pass themselves as a local by dropping names like they actually hung out with those in question. Not intended for you Griffin.