Wins,losses,skills,$ ?
What are your life experiences like ?
Is it enough to base a movie on ?
Stur the kettle and voice your opinion.
Herb
Hey Herb! Good topic!
I think one criteria would have to be “contributions that have a profound effect on an organization, group, community or industry”
I think longevity would also have to be a major factor.
I can think of a few that fit that bill in the surfing industry.
Gordon Clark
Greg Loehr
Kelly Slater
Laird Hamilton
Al Merrick
Just off the top of my head.
see logger 33’s post on ‘end of an era’ thread…Kp’s head must be swelling!
one who consistantly gives 110%
longevity
humbleness
always rises to the occasion
stands accountable for their own actions
someone who makes a differance
Good question. I’m sure it’s a different answer for everyone. A function of their exposure, knowledge, and experience. Here’s are some:
George Downing
Buzzy Trent
Phil Edwards
Pat Curren *
Alan Nelson *
Mike Diffenderfer *
Butch Van Artsdalen*
Bob Simmons *
Woody Brown * …to name just a few, from the past. The * indicates a Windansea local. Woody, in fact, was the first guy to surf Windansea. All of these guys were either exceptional board builder/designers, riders, or both. Today, Swaylocks own Jim Phillips, is also in possession of those same qualities, and should be on any such list.
Once again Herb exercises us in philosophy.
A little taste of it is good once in while.
Methinks to become a legend one use such elements as these:
Natural inborn talent
Humility
Focus
Internal strength
Vision
Good Fortune
A sense of History
Friends
Hard Work
Perseverance
Few realize such status during their living years.
~But don’t look back, it doesn’t really matter if you’ve burned somebody (-; Yeah right.
Stay Stoked, Rich
Johnny Paarman…
Orange wetsuits. definitely orange wetsuits.
The real legends stand up on real merits in the eyes of real people after the legend-makers have moved on to the next flavour-of-the-month.
Josh
wikipedia says,
the brothers grimm defined legend as folkktale historicly grounded
legend typicly is a short episodic ,traditional,highly ecotypified
historicized narrative performed in a conversational mode reflecting on a psychological level a symbolic representation of folk belief and collective experiences and serving as a reafirmation of commonly held values of
the group to whose tradition belongs. thank s wiki…for the sixy cent loan.
the stretching of meanings of words by use in context aside
the meaning of ''legend ‘’ like that of ‘long board’ previously discussed at length here by the blue campfire is in flux as I writ and as others contribute.
the turning point was when greg noll sent out invites and put together the ‘‘legends events’’.
the contest made - the 9’ is a long board
the invites made-is a legend.
the fact that you could buy a ticket and go along for a price
compromised the use-meaning of the term
what is a legend?
is a fine contemplation…
the second part of the herbivorious question
instantly skipped by some responses
in favor of listing favorites
and respective forebearers of our
respected torch all be it …
…What are your life experiences like ? …
is an open invitation to spill beans in the fire
to temper
or irretriveably destroy
bullship stories to build upon
for movie contextualization .
in our audio visual culture ‘’ movie ‘’ IS validation.
the singer on the beach
with the mele of the exploits of the surfer
made it possible for the contestant
to return to the beach
in one old hawaiian surf story .
in that cultural context
‘Mele’ was validation.
if I remember correctly
our man was denied
in the story
and the guy with the better song won the contest.
this seems to be the case.
as we age this legacy
may assure our survival beyond life.
A movie so to speak on late night T.V.
I can watch some of em over and over
and still never get em right .
the ‘‘To Me’’ definition of legend
requires repeating a story
over time and repitition
repeats get more and more glorious
the repeats x 3-5-7-9
ad infinitum are what
makes a story enough
to base a movie on.
trim the fat
add the spice
and the sugar
and the flavors
mature and become the
comment to stir saliva and appitite.
I said it before,
Pee wee said at the end of
pee wee’s great adventure
,an epic send up of the topic,
I dont need to watch it ,
I lived it…
comic but poinient
pee wee the ultimate geeky icon
not paul reuben
played on the screen by the old brolin
is a fabulous joke.
base the movie?
the flip image is of a glass pipe with a movie loaded
and the torch flipped on
in the dark
and richard on fire running down the street in L.A.
what a time to be alive.
base a movie on
the legend of what
we do when we
get up every morning.
A day in the life of herb bill kurt john mike
mark kevin or even me
repeat it enough times
we have legend.
…ambrose…
if we go perhaps to beyond the ledge end
we are in freefall
until we come
crashing to earth.
the artistry is within in the free fall
and the belief in our chosen wings
prolonging glide.
with the right stuff
we can land softly
and with grace.
terra firma awaits us all.
Is the movie our context?
Yes it can be.
beowolf ,charlemagne… olger the dane
in mad magazine arthur was a plant
in camelot arthur was … an old tree
in the middle of everything
I AM A LEGEND!!!
Seals big and small fear me…They write folk songs about me!
-Resinhead the Great One
Death definitely helps!
Enormous vinyl stickers?
??
The two elements in a legend are.
-
Having something to do with a legendary event
-
Recognition of it.
As far as what “makes” a legend the answer is simple, we do.
We were supposed to anyway, that might be where we failed.
That is why I prefer to speak for myself.
I vote Herb!
edit & thee grim brothers!!
Thank you Ambrose. I just figured out what the blue campfire is. Duh!!!
depends on what they are being considered a legend in?
board building for me would be someone who has been doing it for years. has a sturdy client base and when you say their name people know who your talking about.
for surfing for sure Kelly slater is a legend because of what he has accomplished. for surfing its what you accomplish or have records for.
i mean i could make a biographical movie about my growing up years and all the weird stuff that has happened(theres alot) but would i be a legend? nope, just a kid who happens to never have a dull day.
Is being famous
and
being a Legend
one in the same
or
is it a different kind of beast.
This question came about when a person approached me at the board swap this weekend.
He asked me if I was Herb Spitzer,Shook my hand and called me a Legend.
A Legend ?
My 8yr old Daughter Keani didn’t ask me what a legend was…but rather…
…What makes a Legend …a Legend ?
A very good question… I pondered…what makes a Legend…a Legend ?
Time ?
Keani is a very intelligent person,I thought…as she hugs her newly bought, “Duke” ukulele.
That one question from her… was worth the time spent.
From the mouth of babes.
Herb
Herb Spitzer,Legend
well I’ll be!
wait till I tell Fred
LOL!
i am no Great Cathedral…
i am only a little church…
people like Jim Phillips,Bill Barns…etc.
are the Cathedrals of this sport…
i am only a little church.
Herb
He is humble
Your a good guy Herb
after the apocolypse
there will be folklore stories told of how the mighty Spitzer brought a man back to life with a shot gun
I can hear it now,"He was a big man ,stood 6 foot 3,I saw him once surfing RayBay @ 25ft…
Being famous is being know for doing something. That something could be good or bad. There are many people that are famous for doing the wrong things in life. A legend is known for doing something innovative, unique, good etc. Could also be a person that is way ahead of his time.