Where to find a fred tool in australia

New 6’2’’ narrower than the swallow, haven’t ridden it yet.  Bennets yellow, 6oz bottom with 6oz top and 4oz 3/4 patch, doesn’t fell too heavy and should last longer.  Need to shape a 6’4’’ but real work has prevented me from getting it done as yet.

 

EDIT: crap picture and the stringer looks yellow in it? don’t know why?

…ok, thanks

Im using small boards too, for big conditions.

I have a problem, after standing up, with larger boards

Those outlines look clean

Hey Zackoopman sorry for hijaking your thread and giving poor old Fred a
soild sledging.  Just make one they are easy to do it,  might suit your methods, some pro
shapers use them, some don’t? Mike and Reverb are very knowledgable, read their posts and Bills rail band thread is an epic.  In my experience the mirco plane blades cut PU better,
maybe this would be the best cutting application for a Fred?

 

I use 80 grit on mine.

Hey Zackooman you can purchase a fred tool from Surfblanks, check their online store.

 

Two small Surform blades attached to a piece of pine cut at 30 degree.  Use small little screws. Attach the blades in opposite directions so that the tool cuts whether pushed or pulled.  Cut the end off the blades where they meet on the block so they will lay flat on the pine.  They are a bit of a crutch, but I pick mine up and use it occasionally on really plain old shortboard blanks.  The bevel they create is a good starting point.   You can do the same thing with the planer or a Surform and a good eye.  Of course use of the word Surform starts another debate.  You can tighten up the bottom edge with sand paper and a hard block (no pad).  A hard tucked under edge is only as good as your sander.  Lowel

32 bucks on surfblanks australia site, i got one the other week,

If you own a surform, you don’t need one.

Learn to hold it properly.

gotta love a nooby question from a while back popping up again. 

Tried it wasnt a big fan, they seem to tear the foam quite abit, not very smooth.  I just use a hard sanding block with 36 grit 

 

Surforms, haven’t we already gone through this?

Zack, when fresh outta the package, they are very sharp and abrasive.

Once broken in properly, they cut like butter.

held at the right angle,

They sand like 36 or 40 grit.

They don’t need to be attached to anything.

Just hold it properly.

I’ve gone back to Fred. Micro plane blades are good, set the rip saw to desired angle, keep the offcut, screw together.


Te Fred n you…dats da only tool you need…

hey barry i was refering to the fred tool i bought from surfblanks oz.

I used to do my rail band with a surform but swapped to the sanding block, Im always just trying new things/ techniques being self taught.

Nice one Marsh.  Well done.  Lowel

I made and used a Fred tool my first 6 boards.  My wife paid for me to have a shaping lesson for my 45th b day and he showed me how to do the bottom bands with a microplane sureform. Count the strokes. Keep it symetrical.  Easy to control. I havn’t seen that Fred tool in 11 years. I wonder what happened to it?  Mike

Also, the Fred tool worked really well.  But, It seemed kind of a ‘crutch’ after seeing it done by someone who can control a sureform to get whatever result he wanted. So I stopped using it. Maybe its time I  learn how to use the power planer under there… Mike

Rooster, you nailed it.

Count the strokes.

I band my lower tuck with my surform.

Litterally takes me seconds.

I also use it to clean up my rail bands.

My friend who now shapes for CI, used to ask me how I worked without a Fred tool?

I said “what’s that”.

He showed me and I laughed.

You don’t need that if you had better control of that surform.

We laugh about that now.