And in Cali it’s only going to get worse,I’m afraid.
Still there are those times and moments,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;you just got to be therelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll that’s all.Herb
I think anywhere in the US it’s like you said, even on rivers and streams. We’ve gone flyfishing in Montana and you can walk right through someone’s property as long as you’re on the stream bank. It wouldn’t usually be a problem anyway, people there are really cool (For land lubbers, not much surf in Montana)
You can walk freely up to the high tide line, but the sea walls are considered part of their property (despite getting soaked by high tide waves).
And to add something new to this old thread…
Cojo and Jalama Ranches sold for close to $155 million 
EMAIL this story to a friend By: Marcus Sanders January 12, 2007 In one of the biggest California coastal land sales ever, the Bixby Company just sold the Cojo and Jalama Ranches – just north of the famed Hollister Ranch – to an LA-based (and Boston-funded) company called Coastal Management Resources LLC for close to the asking price of $155 million.
The Cojo Ranch has nine miles of coastline, including at least three world-class boat-in-access-only surf spots as well as Point Conception, while the Jalama Ranch has 142 acres of coastline and a couple damn fine waves as well. (Cojo’s total acreage is almost 10,000, while Jalama includes 15,500 acres or 24 square miles.) The land, in a word, is stunning. Rolling hills, oak trees, rugged coastline, desolate beaches – it’s a California not seen much elsewhere in the state. Longtime surfer and Hollister Ranch real estate agent Dan Johnson, along with partner Suzanne Perkins, both of Sotheby’s International Realty, represented the Bixby Company in the sale. “It’s a very unique place,” Johnson told Surfline. “Nowhere else on the coast can you have west-facing beaches and south-facing beaches right next to each other.”
It’s true: Point Conception, long-considered the geographical divider between northern and southern California marks a huge coastal shift. North of the point, the predominant NW winds are howling onshore, but just south, the coastline starts bending in and the NW winds blow offshore. A surfer’s wet dream, in other words. But due to the fact that it’s private – and there are only a couple dwellings – most surfers have only ever surfed the spots on the Cojo Ranch by boat from Gaviota. “So many people have only seen Cojo from the water,” Johnson says. “The land itself is so amazing.”
While developing many areas in Southern California through the early to mid 1900s, the Long Beach-based Bixby Company bought the Cojo Ranch in 1913 and the Jalama Ranch in 1939 and apart from one house and five guesthouses, pretty much left all the land as open space. Surfers have been boating (and making the grueling and illegal six-mile trespass) in since the waves were first discovered in the late sixties. “It’s a very unique place. Nowhere else on the coast can you have west-facing beaches and south-facing beaches right next to each other.” --Longtime Ranch real estate agent Dan Johnson While some locals are concerned about possible development, there are at least three serious checks and balances before anything can be built here: the 1992 Vandenburg Air Force Base Agreement puts an easement on both Jalama and Cojo Ranches in order to continue the program to launch heavy payloads into space orbit. (They can’t build houses where an errant rocket might go over, in other words.) In addition to the U.S. Air Force, two political organizations have control over development: the California Coastal Commission and the Santa Barbara Board of Supervisors. Plus, Santa Barbara County is a designated Slow Growth County. So the Coastal Management Resources LLC can’t exactly start chucking up hotels and casinos or anything. (Donald Trump was a possible buyer who wanted to put up hotels, golf courses, etc., but backed out before escrow, possibly due to the difficult nature of developing here.)
Coastal Management Resources’ head, Linda Miller, issued a statement that said, “We appreciate the beauty of this land and the resources it shelters and understand that the residents of this area, and indeed, all of California, share our interest in its future. We are going to take our time, to learn about the property and its resources and to listen to what people think.”
And while not much is really known about Coastal Management Resources (or their designs on the land) at this point, locals are hopeful that this statement is not just lip service.
“The good news is that it’ll remain private and protected for years to come,” explains Johnson. “But far off in the future, it’ll be entirely up to the company.”
can you say Slant oil drilling?
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can you say Slant oil drilling?
Surfed w/ George Carlin last week. Boated in.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1617382713
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Surfed w/ George Carlin last week. Boated in.
Well, that was the most worthwhile thing I’ve watched in ages. Can’t wait to play that for my wife tonight…she was getting a bit testy about my howling that both NFL league championship games Sunday were fixed or heavily influenced (I think the refs in both games carried the ball further or at least on more critical downs than any players)…yes, good on George.