6+4oz deck, wrap the 6oz, or 4oz??

General Discussion
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Im waiting on some glass and resin to finish off my fishy twinny, and im doing a 6+4oz deck. Im thinking of wrapping the 6oz, and having the 4oz as a full length patch, just so the rails have a little more glass on them.

Good idea/bad idea??

WHat do you guys do??

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I like to lay the 4oz down first, and trim just past rail apex, and lap the 6oz. Or, my favorite, a 3 x 4oz deck, with a single 4, or 6, bottom.

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So Bill…with a single 6 and triple 4 deck…how the heck do you blend the bottom lap?

Do you just do a lap with one of the 4’s and trim the other 2 to the rail line?

How do you work that?

In answer to beerfan…I would actually do the opposite of Bill. I would lay the 6 on the deck and lap the 4.

But that’s just me…and if I were you…I’d listen to Bill. LOL

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Thanks bill, and todd!!

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i just did a 6/4 deck, 6 bottom and i wrapped the 4oz cuz it’s less of a hastle all the way around…just my 2 cents.

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On a 3 x 4oz deck layup, trim the first layer @ rail apex, next one approx 1/2 inch past rail apex, and the last one a full 1 1/2 inch lap. I’m looking for maximun strength, on the rail. This is my choice. Perhaps not for everyone.

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Hey Bill,

why not trim the first layer at the the first lap line or bottom outline, #2 at the rail apex, then full lap for #3.

Just wondering, and wanting to learn from your experience.

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As stated above, looking for very strong rails, so more cloth ON the rail apex. Added weight is meaningless. (to me)

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I’ve only ever wrapped 6oz. Is it much easier to wrap 4oz compared to 6oz??, if its easier, i might try it.

Cheers guys.

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Howzit Bill, I was taught to cut the first layer along the tuck line of the rail which adds even mor strength,that way the glas covers the entire rail.Aloha,Kokua

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Hey Mark,

I always lap the 6oz. If I’m using 6oz I want all the strength I can get out of it especially on the rails.

I found it was harder to wet out with the 4oz under the 6oz as well and more difficult to notice bubbles etc.

Regards

Daren.

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Thanks daren, im using uv cured poly, so i should have enough time to wet out properly, and get rid of bubbles. Im out of the water til the 10th of jan, and i just ordered the glass and resin, so im hoping my first surf back might be on my new board.

Or, maybe i might put the 6oz on the bottom, but bring it right out over to the rail apex, so i still get strength on the top of the rail, but im wrapping the 4oz, like bill does. I suppose it wont make a huge difference, im not surfing reefs, and im not hard on my boards.

Are you still doing the eps/xps/epoxy boards from shapers??. If so, how are they going, and how do they compare strength and weight wise to a poly of the same dimension and glass job. If i make myself an 8’er, or similar, i like the idea of having a strong glass job, but without being too heavy.

Cheers daren

Merry xmas mate

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Yep still building a few XPS and EPS boards. The one I’m riding at the moment is holding up extremely well, hardly any dents in the deck and it only has a single 4oz. Super light at around 5lb. real lively board as well.

I’ve also got a couple of young kids around here ripping on them as well. Young Tommy Hill is riding a stringerless EPS and he’s blowing up.

The strength and weight of the XPS just doesn’t compare with poly and the boards still feel great under your feet. Just a pain in the arse to shape.

Merry Xmas and I hope you get some waves.

Daren

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What a waste of a thread!, i got the stuff this morning, and its all 4oz!!. Im not sure if they didnt think i’d notice, but i checked it, and yep, its all 4oz. I looked at both lots ( i ordered 4 and 6 ) and they are the same. To make sure, i went through my shed and found my two plastic bags of offcuts of 4 and 6oz from a different supplier. You can see the difference easily when put side by side. I checked my old 6oz scrap against both lots of new stuff, and its definately not 6oz.

Oh, well, lucky i have light longboard foam that’s only had the crust sanded off, top and bottom. I’ll send them an email, not a nasty one, just to let them know i know.

P.S on my recent resin swirl experiments, i’ve been using scrap 6oz on the bottom of my now dead ( stripped ) 2+1. Anyway, out of curiosity, i punched the single 6oz sample, to see how it holds up. I didn’t wind up and kinghit it, but gave it a solid short punch. Holds up very well, only a small shallow compression. Good stuff that 6oz.

EDIT I just checked, and i was given more UV catalyst/additive than i ordered ( double ), so, i guess im square?. Still doesnt really help me, but, i dont wanna send stuff back and have to wait. No big deal, i guess i’ll have a super light twinny. Hmmm, maybe i might do a “cheater coat” of just coloured resin to add a bit more weight back.

Cheers, and merry xmas everyone.

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I always wrap my 6oz, and I cut the 4oz right to the bottom edge of the rail…not the top edge. Don’t know how everybody else does it, it’s the way I learned. Seems like you would want the stronger glass wrapping the rail. I always do no less than a 2 1/2 lap and usually quite a bit more for strength.