Im off to the Mentawai Islands this week for 2 weeks.
Im taking a 6’8" Miller V-Skate. But dont know what other board to take. Its a choice out of a 6’6" x 19.5 x 2 7/8 JS or the 6’8" McCoy Nugget that i havent had long and never surfed in good waves yet. But im thinking it should be pretty stable for tube riding ??
Im an intermediate surfer so was thinking the Nugget could help me get into waves earlier?
I cant take all 3 due to Air Asia weight restrictions.
i was wondering how such a wide tail would work in high speed situations. from my limited understanding i find wide tails are good in small surf but become tracky and cumbersome at hig speed when turning in the pocket
The McCoy Nugget really doesnt surf well in very small conditions. Seems to get better the bigger the surf gets. But ive not surfed it in hollow reef breaks yet…
Definitely a vote for the Mccoy from me. I have a 6’8" and they absolutely come alive in bigger surf, stable, fast and turns like nothing else. You cant judge McCoy tail withs in the context of other boards using V and concaves for control. The loaded dome really loosens it up and all it wants to do is turn.
[just look for the guy getting tubed with the 'go pro camera on his bicep or forearm , or else swimming on the outside , looking in [possibly with the pole cam setup] ....
I’ve seen Simon every year in Indo at the place we often go to but not last year. Did see some good friends of his son tho’. Good surfers and great guys, as is Simon. Please say hello to him for me.
so a turn like this is possible with a 16 inch tail? this is getting into the realms of decent size surf yeah!
is there any photos or video of boards like this doing cutbacks or hacks in critical parts of a sizey wave?
i have found that over four foot the wide tail boards i have surfed can not be turned like this. they are fast and stable but only really aloow drawn out carving . i prefer riding a pulled tail in bigger surf and tail width doesnt seem to make much difference to catching waves
ok ill have a look . im not down on mcoys man. cheyne was/is one of my fav surfers and i like riding with crutches myself so im interested in the wider boards that geoff has designed
Yes, even I can do a turn with that radius on a 7’ McCoy on a much more serious wave (under the lip and on a good day).
In explanation: because the tail is so wide I surf with my back foot very close to the tail so the leverage is huge, also because the tail is so wide the outside fin will immediately lift out of the water and on a turn like that most of the center fin will also be out of the water. The huge roll at the tail means the initiation of the turn is easy at any speed, then the aforementioned factors take over for the completion of the turn. The round tail also helps as it has no preferred radius for a turn unlike square, swallow or pin tails. As someone has already said on this thread you can’t compare your experiences on a non rolled tail with a McCoy dome.
Have to add that unlike other bottom shapes McCoys actually get looser as the wave size (speed) increases. This is because on bigger waves the speed increases so you sit up higher on the dome so its even easier to turn, other bottom shapes do the reverse: as the speed increase they become much more difficult to turn. All very simple really. Next we could talk about how the McCoy rails act like foils that generate speed and hold that makes critical positioning a breeze where other boards would be having problems. Penalty for all this is that they are sluggish in less gutsy waves for surfers who are not so good (that includes me).