70's style gun

I’m not familiar with the big wave specific style rails and bottom contours that work best in the overhead + conditions. I’m thinking a 7’8" pintail, lightning bolt style… or something.

Any advice? Thanks

Tyson

I could give you what you’re looking for, but Bill Barnsfield would be the Man on this subject.If he doesn’t check in soon I chime back in here.

Do you want a full on retro or one that’s updated a bit ?

I PM BB and i Think my questions are too broad right now because I’m really unfamiliar with board designs for big waves. As far as keeping it retro or modern I just want to go with what works best and keep the retro shape as close as to a lightning bolt or bing, wider up front through a pin in the back, with one of those lONG narrow single fins.

Tyson

if you are going to ride anything lightening boltesque be sure the wave you intend to ride it in has plenty of juice. theboard has very turned down rails, not hard with a crisp edge, but turned down and rolled into the bottom. Bottom is a mild panel V.

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I’m not familiar with the big wave specific style rails and bottom contours that work best in the overhead + conditions. I’m thinking a 7’8" pintail, lightning bolt style… or something.

Any advice? Thanks

Tyson

Aloha Tyson

Here is an 8’0" x 18 1/8" Pintail. Is this what you were thinking?

Or something more conservative? Someone mentioned that Lightning Bolt boards had specific kinds of rails…etc. I guess it depends on the boards each person wound up seeing from that era. But the group of us that made up the core team at Lightning Bolt were a pretty diverse group of surfer/shapers that made boards across the full spectrum depending on where we personally surfed and our team riders. Parrish for example made great Sunset Guns for Hackman and many of the Pros mid 70s. And he was an outstanding surfer at Sunset himself. His boards were more soft, fuller and more neutral, then the typical boards I made for Pipeline where I preferred to surf. They were all good though. Fun times those were!

attached are some pics of a 1972 7’6"x19" northshore pintail gun made for me by Harold Iggy. It’s a classic Tom Parrish beak nose style design that was all the rage back then.

Lasted 35 years with some yellow and browning from being outside in the sun all that long until it was reshaped into a fish twice by my brother.

Has almost zero rocker outside of the nose kick with a slight vee throughout the whole bottom.

worked great back int he 70’s with a 24" long by 4" high flex keel driven off that thin pin. Bonzer thrust without the bonzer.


hey originalsin!

I too will be making a bolt copy only my customer wants a 9 footer with veneered deck and bottom. It will be a wall hanger but I will make it usable. will start on it next month. I made a template from an old 70’s Pesci (looks just like a bolt). cant wait to get er done LOL!

It will have the same veneer as the attached pic

I think you forgot to attatch those pics bro. thanks!

Nice pic, thanks. So does the bottom contour on that board also have a Vee through the whole thing?

Also… what kind of rails work best in faster heavy stuff?

The pic is of a 10’ longboard that is in process. it has a flat bottom.

as far as heavy surf rails and bottom contours This is what I have read …

Bottom… forward portion should be bellyed to glide through chop, then transition to V in the tail section. not much tail rocker down the centerline but the V in the tail will put rocker along the rail to aid in turning. this is for big surf Guns.

Rails… starting from nose, soft then transition to a hard edge in the tail. this is also for big guns.

The 70’s was a time of experementations. What Lopez road then was what worked at the time. newer more refined boards work much better that what he was using.

the 70’s semi Guns 7’6" to 8’ plus I think all had turned down rails nose to tail. And I think they were cut from longboard blanks. And the longboard charicteristics were melting into shortboard design, so they may have been using some longboard type rails, ie 50/50 and 60/40 through the tail area.

thats what I got