I have this board… it´s manovreable, easy to paddle, but not very fast as I wish…
It´s 8 x 22" x 2 x 1/2", double concave
what´s you opinion to make another one, but real faster???
The nose rocker seems to abrupt,Flatter rocker in the nose.The rails toward the nose seem too thick,I would sharpen them up.Loose the concave and give the fins a little less toe.Dont rule out a single fin option either.I like a “knifey” sharp rail that slices the water easily when going down the line.
Flat bottom,
and I myself can’t see the rails’ thickness, but I tend to support the gentleman’s idea
put a straight edge across the bottom
Looks like its got some belly
The rails are perfectly “normal” …
They´re sharp, but very soft on the wall.
My questions now, are these: should´nt it be concave the bottom?? you prefer it flat?? (why?), and what about the rocker??
Thanks
I’d think about the amount of toe-in on all four of those big fins…probably a lot of the drag right there.
Maybe install a 10’’ centre fin box, and get an 8’’ single fin??
If it’s easy to paddle, then I would think that the board isn’t the problem. How new is it? If you’ve only had it out a few times, it could be the day or the waves.
Where are you riding it,
what are the waves like,
where do you have your back foot,
do you have a lot of weight on your front foot?
I have it by 3 months, and I didn´t got any big good day…
the fins, maybe, are too big, but she turns like a 3 fin smaller… 7´5", for ex.)
I put my back foot on the back pad in a good place e my front foot on the middle of board; as I surf longboard, if necessary, I walk a little on the board.
Later I will put some photos here of my surfing.
(Good waves in Portugal - the smallest, the meaniest, the ugliest and the most stupid place of Europe… but the better one…)
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(Good waves in Portugal - the smallest, the meaniest, the ugliest and the most stupid place of Europe… but the better one…)
Hmmm, don’t know about stupid and ugly, but you got the rest right… 
I would think Lufi knew a thing or two about fast boards. Flatter rocker and less toed fins will sure make it faster but also stiffer. Always these little trade offs…
Maybe give it a shot with smaller fins, maybe put the bigger fins at the back and see how it goes.
regards,
HÃ¥vard
I´ll try a diffrent set of back fins and see what happens…
but I´m gonna make a new quad …
here it is:
AND OF COURSE…:
Luis,
Since you are making another one I would push the wide center point 2 inches forward to the nose and take 1 inch off the tail width. This more “gunny” outline will do the trick. You can use any fin set up you want and the speed will be there. Also flat deck to add a bit more volume would help too.
I think the shape is more vital to your speed issue than the fin set up. This is from big wave experience from Hawaii talking.
Please tell me one thing:
what about the rocker???
Can you give me them measurements, for it??
Thank you
the rocker looks like it would be drivey enough and quads are generally fast so thinking maybe it doesnt seem as fast as the longboards you usually ride, plus if it turns well already makes me think its you not being used to it just yet, surf it for a bit longer and just feel it out and adapt, could be that simple…I think too many people wanna blame fins and change them but we couldnt do it years ago and people didnt whinge about fins much back then, just got used t the board and surfed it as well as they could…,just my 2 bobs woth…
…will do the trick to control not to speed up the board…
–Luis,
or a board is intended to maneuverability or is intended for projection and/or speed
(intrinsically)
so if you have a board that performs good in short arcs, etc you need to “create” that speed moving, flowing the board
pumping to the curl of the wave to obtain such speed and pass the sections
but this is not too simple in a big board and requires a good surfer
Just to prove my point Luis, keep every thing the same to include your double concave, tail and 4 fin set up, and rocker. Do only what I suggest and you will see how your board will catch waves easier, earlier and you will find the board has a gas pedal with one small step forward on the board.
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...will do the trick to control not to speed up the board...–Luis,
or a board is intended to maneuverability or is intended for projection and/or speed
(intrinsically)
so if you have a board that performs good in short arcs, etc you need to “create” that speed moving, flowing the board
pumping to the curl of the wave to obtain such speed and pass the sections
but this is not too simple in a big board and requires a good surfer
That’s not how I look at it when choosing my board for the given wave conditions. My big wave gun is faster then my back hipped long board on huge waves. The speed difference is night and day. Control is of little use if I get caught behind the peak and have no place to go. The control factor is a constant variable for any given board.
ENOUGH, helpful impostor! What have you done with the real OTAY??!!
; )