Hey guys Gridloxs has been taking off!
Everyone
who has been contacting me for international shipping prices you can go
to surf source online. Proper shipping rates for international orders
are there also Scroll down to bottom of web page and the Gridloxs with
colors that are available are there. Surf Source is a one stop shop for
everything you need for board builders! I should have some video, of hammer tests between the gridloxs and the ribz carbon fiber patches up tommorrow.
Hey Lemat.
No reinventing anything here.
I was / am fully aware of everything you’ve written above when I commented in my post…
What these guys, including myself want is a very cheap cost effective impact resistant bulker that is flexible where carbon patches are not…
I commonly use a light weight PE bulker between my core-cell or any type of skin I might use…
It’s better than glass for this application in many ways…imho… But that’s another topic…
I could easily buy dyneema or Innegra no problem, but it’s more fun to find cheaper materials that offer similar benefits…
Regardless of what you use as your bulker, the consensus from what I’ve read in the last year is that the bulker should be at the middle or core of your glass / hybrid “microsandwich”
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“Merrick for one is using rice paper laminate patches, same with sharpe eye.”
CI does not use rice paper for their rail hits! Why would you say something that is totally false?
Let me rephrase my comment sharpe eye had used fabric designs along with ribz carbon fiber, merrick has used multiple things like Fiberglass osy 2 oz that is printed, “what i called rice paper, i was just meanign a printed image on material” also vector net. I shouldn’t of called it rice paper . Regardless manufactures are doing what they think is best Im using a material that im my boards are way more cost effective, workable, flexible. Everything I wish carbon fiber was. To me it’s a No brainer. Not looking to stir up arguments, just keeping a level head and ears always open.
here are pics of what others manufactures are doing, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I know what i like best. Price, looks, effectivness. To each his own, Im a small board builder thinking outside the box, big builders have money to spend. I my friend, try to be as cost effcient as possible.
common problem
hey kiterider,
I spend lot of time reinvent the wheel too, my wife thinks it’s a disease LOL.
But it’s so funny to take all we can know to improve something…
I understand what you say about the search of good cheap material. Many plastic fibers for composits exist in other application and way cheaper.
I see nylon grid in big roll used for reinforcement of cement screed and plaster strucure to replace metal grid.
They sell some poly"something" non woven fibers for same application or soil stabilization and lighter’s one for wall reinforcement. Really good cheap bulker, i m sure you already know it.
Something good to try that come in composits world is cork. There are several factory of cork around me (all works with/for amorin) that make roll and panels of cork. We use it for many application in home. That was the first material i use to learn baging when i was a young airplane model builder (20 years ago). But it was to heavy so i use blasa and high tech foam for my models. It’s a happy medium between plastic bulker and high tech sandwich: easier to form than HP materials or wood (really flexy) and lighter than fiber bulker…
Sorry for my frenglish
Gridloxs is adding a fiberglass based grid now too. Its the red label gridlox with wider grid. Just a different look also
Heres the colors that the nylon based gridloxs comes in
Hey Josh…
I’d be really interested in seeing the rest of those boards there… Are they 3 piece travel boards?? lol…
I bet these are for the retail suppliers to display.
Hey Lemat.
I’m trying to get my hands on some of the core cork… But I feel it has some limitations as well as positive aspects…
A fellow member here calls the cork boards “Graham Cracker sandwiches” which is a funny but accurate statement…
I think we’ll slowly tire of the brown “corky” look cosmetically over time… There’s only so much you can do to make it look interesting… Some will surely love the brown color though…
I never really liked the look of natural bamboo for example that’s why I dye it with colors…But that’s just me…
The NL 20 cork weighs more than twice the weight of the Core-Cell A500 I generally use to skin boards, so there’s no advantage there…
I like the fact you can wrap rails with the cork and that is a clear advantage over rigid foam…
I also like the fact that the cork is more flexible overall…
There’s infinite materials we can try to skin or even laminate boards with… These are interesting times… Doing it for cheap is an added bonus… Core-Cell is starting to get expensive but I’m so used to working with it now…I wish it were white though…
Rohacell is white but costs even more…
Sorry for the temporary hi-jack Josh…
Wow… my eyes must be crossing…
Great day at surf expo! Sharpe eye, ajw surfboards, lost, Timmy Patterson, Roberts surfboards, Js, orion, whiz, Christenson surfboards, and others
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good for you ! but you can rest asured all those builder if they want to use that material will hand it over to their composites rep and source it themselves good luck
No worries totally understand, just super stoked on the responses and feedback from everyone with it.
Of course. But only the smart ones. Why wouldn't they?
i went to a wedding reception tonight and this stuff (white color) was used as decoration - draped over windows/walls. seems like a better use for it than making a surfboard look ‘cool’ …
Heavy!,
hey kiterider
Cork is not an alternative of HP foam, for mechanical performance. Cork is an alternative of non woven bulker: it’s cheap and produce a lighter skin with a bit less toughness and stiffness with a simple vacuum process. But it’s nowhere of performance you have with HP foam like airex, corecell, rohacell, etc…
I found it ugly first (like many blasa wood parquet style board i made LOL) but as you say, with habit to see it i like it more and more.
Sorry for my frenglish.
lemat the cork does not need to have mechanical performance
just think what you can put under the bonnet
josh maybe being a bit up front with the gridlock push but one thing is sure nylon is great stuff to use in a sandwich it does enhance the laminate
i have used it ever since j d put me on to it
just my stupid thoughts of course oh and some trial and error
cheers huie