I’ve been doing smallish ding repairs for a few years now and recently attempted to fix a snapped board. so I’ve just glued it back together which seemed to work quite well, thanks mainly to using Bill Barnfields thread http://www.swaylocks.com/node/1021318
However I’m a little unsure in how to start the glassing at the moment as the break was quite messy. I’ve attached pics of the board showing the current state on both sides.
So I’ve got a few questions and if anyone can offer me any advice before I crack on with it that would be great.
As you can see there is quite a lot of glass that has ripped off around the break and that it is fairly uneven in how it has come off especially on top, so does anyone
have any advice on how I should attempt the glassing. Should I remove more glass so the line of original glass is fairly even all around the board? or not worry about this and
just cut a piece of cloth that fits the gap?
The exposed foam is quite uneven and rough with a few holes in parts. Should I be applying a layer of resin or pour foam and sand it flush with the glass before
I start glassing?
3.On the bottom the break is right next to the fin boxes. so I’m guessing these are going to be the weak points that I can’t really do anything about unless I remove
So,,,,,,,,, Mr. StoneBurner.........you do surfboard repair? Really? or just click on links for stuff.
Hello Jetta........Here's what I see. A Cheap import with a clueless plywood stringer and paint on the top. Yes, it can be fixed and I've fixed quite a few..............
But is it really worth it? Sticks along the stringer might make you sleep better at night but. 18 inches of cloth with nice overlaps on the rails will make the board strong. The time and money to fix this surfboard will surpass the value of the surfboard........If you still want help I will walk you through it..........but .........................
Use a filler like q-cel to fill in the messed up foam areas. Sand the areas down around the damaged area, and fin boxes. Tape off the fin boxes and re-glass the board starting with the bottom and lap your cloth 2-3" over to the deck. Cut your cloth in a diamon shape because angles help to disperse the flex load. Sand the laps, glass the deck and lap the cloth over to the bottom. Hot coat the deck. Flip the board over and grind the laps and hot coat resin and sand open the taped off boxes. Re-tape the boxes, tape off your rail for a hot coat and hot coat the bottom. Sand your hot coat and go shred.
It is super critical to be sure you put the board back together with the rocker in tact as best to your ability. There is no need to take the time or spend the money to fix the board if it will end up with a “kink” in the rocker. This is usually more difficult than the repair itself!
From what I’ve seen with other snapped board repairs, the rails are the critical area for strength. Yes you need to make sure that you glue up the two halves with the rocker intact, but once you get to the glassing, you need to make sure that you do the rails right to keep the board strong. If you leave a weak spot or a have a stronger section the 2 weaker sections on either side, it can snap again. I’ve seen that happen to friends who had their boards “professionally” repaired.
I’ve only done one snapped board and I stripped it down then reshaped it, so the whole board had a new lamination. I fixed a buckled long board by stripping the top and then adding rail channels and re-glassing the deck with a lap around the rail.
So,,,,,,,,, Mr. StoneBurner.........you do surfboard repair? Really? or just click on links for stuff.
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Does it really matter?
There was once a guy who had never shaped a surfboard, but he started a forum for discussing surfboard design and shaping.
Its all good.
I think its kinda nice when someone is willing to do a little research and share what they found, sometimes that one link is just whats needed at the moment.
Swaylock’s: Treasure Trove of Surfboard Design by JD Jenkins posted 2003-09-15 ~~~ It’s interesting to note that Paler, who has eleven boards in his quiver, has never shaped a board himself. “I swear I will shape a board someday!” he laughs. "I feel like I shape boards in my mind but haven’t done so physically …
In developing the site, my thought was, “I haven’t shaped anything yet, but at least I can talk with people that share the same passion for surfboards. And that holds true today for many like me.”
Mike Paler does not dole out advice on surfboard repair.....or on stuff he has never done.....The Barnfied links and stuff from Fiberglass Hawaii should get you guys somewhere close...........
Buyer beware...........who is who? ........Those are some really big shoes........to fill.....
I've been doing smallish ding repairs for a few years now and recently attempted to fix a snapped board. so I've just glued it back together which seemed to work quite well, thanks mainly to using Bill Barnfields thread http://www.swaylocks.com/node/1021318
However I'm a little unsure in how to start the glassing at the moment as the break was quite messy. I've attached pics of the board showing the current state on both sides.
So I've got a few questions and if anyone can offer me any advice before I crack on with it that would be great.
1. As you can see there is quite a lot of glass that has ripped off around the break and that it is fairly uneven in how it has come off especially on top, so does anyone
have any advice on how I should attempt the glassing. Should I remove more glass so the line of original glass is fairly even all around the board? or not worry about this and
just cut a piece of cloth that fits the gap?
2. The exposed foam is quite uneven and rough with a few holes in parts. Should I be applying a layer of resin or pour foam and sand it flush with the glass before
I start glassing?
3.On the bottom the break is right next to the fin boxes. so I'm guessing these are going to be the weak points that I can't really do anything about unless I remove
the boxes and try and refit them perhaps?
Later
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It's a crazy world out there.....This next link is all about fun with fast cars......
Mike Paler does not dole out advice on surfboard repair.....or on stuff he has never done.....The Barnfied links and stuff from Fiberglass Hawaii should get you guys somewhere close...........
Buyer beware...........who is who? ........Those are some really big shoes........to fill.....
So.... you're saying that posting a link to a swaylocks thread on topic is equivalent to doling out advice on something you've never done? Or is it neira and his step by step tutorial showing the method he's been using for ten years that you are calling out as a sham? Did you actually read the thread? A little lesson from Julius Caesar: might be better to take a pass on the group hug unless you check everyone for sharp objects first. Just sayin' ;-)
A big fat Bob Filner Man Hug....Yeah....so sweet........I love you too.........no sticks. no stones.
but you guys are fixing the surfboard wrong. funny,,,,the whole research thing vs doing it......yes.......going out into the shop and fixing a surfboard !
how about a Filner Headlock for Huck........no really...I just want to hug you............Ray
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...you guys are fixing the surfboard wrong. funny,,,,the whole research thing vs doing it......yes.......going out into the shop and fixing a surfboard !
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Yeah I've fixed broken boards also. And I did it different than Neira . Can't say I agree that his method is "wrong", just different than my way, and different than yours. Barnfield too. Kinda the heart and soul of the forum, no? - different people sharing different methods. I appreciate those who share their methods, with pictures and explanation - no one is obligated to do it exactly the same, but hey, its nice to have it laid out so we all can see the process.
You should never use a push broom when a snow shovel would serve you better !! And never stand behind the shoot when cleaning up !! I guess young guys just need to learn the hard way !!
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