Amateur Hour: Board #3, a build thread.

People like this stuff, so, here you go. Pictures and words.

Template making. 

Extremely high tech glue up. Stringerless 2lb EPS from greentlight.

Dramatic, for a piece of foam.

Not too crooked looking. 

Bit of paint. Acryllic on the foam, cut with a slight amount of water, jsut enough to stain the foam. The blank was left to dry for a few days after this to be safe.

Questionable fin installing practices. You’ll see exactly how questionable later in the next shot.

Laying some stuff out, amateur style. If you look closely, the fin box closest to the camera is BACKWARDS. I was pissed. I found out after I glassed it, of course. So I took it to the awesome dudes at greenlight and had them fix it, before I ruined it further. I put glass under the carbon to maybe have some effect on the bond, seeing as carbon is quite stiff and foam, well, isn’t. That being said, I have no idea if that makes a difference.

I make these to last, so there’s tons of glass on the rails. If some noob collides with me, their board will be the one paying the price. Or, more likely, if I do something to ruin it, it won’t break.

Sort of shows my rail profile. I don’t think it’s too weird. Again, it’s amateur hour. I was just going for something pretty normal. Hard at the back, rounder as you go to the nose. They thin out on top, to keep the middle thicker and the rails thinner.

Shiny. Pretty sure that’s how you tape hotcoats, and if not, whatever. It worked.

Dusty but probably surfable.

This was taken on a phone, believe it or not. Tailpad sort of goes with the theme.

The rocker’s not actually as weird looking as it seems. I’d say it’s actually sort of normal, and the board’s just leaning back a bit because the tail end is heavier. Flatter than a potato chip shortboard, but the curve is actually kind of normal. Surfs fine, so, that’s some proof at least.

The final product. Yes, the pad is slightly crooked. I see that every time I look at the board. 

Here’s me riding it when Bertha hit. My leash was wrapped around my feet and between my front toes on this wave. I don’t know why, but that happens to me often. I did bend down and fix it then continue to surf this wave though. So that’s me in the my feet are stuck tied together stance.

So, words… I like the board. It’s 5’5"x19"x2.25"ish. 15" tail and 13" nose. My thickness measures are rather imprecise, so the actual measurement is worthless. It looked right. I’m as tall as the board, 120lbs, 22 years of age. So it’s not that small for me. I could go bigger for winter barrels and stuff, but, this is good for other things. I think it surfs fine. It doesn’t seem slow, works in the conditions I was aiming at and doesn’t seem to have any major issues. The design is fairly conservative; just a slightly wider shortboard with slightly flatter rocker and a bit more volume. My new thing this time was stringerless, since I try and do something new each time. The bottom’s flat, cause I like flat bottoms. I really like my boards to be loose since I’m used to skateboards or shorter, wider boards with twin and trailer setups. But, the board turns, and I’ve managed to launch myself and the board into the air a few times, albiet separately. It’s much easier on a skateboard. I run futures f4s, just plastic for now. I do feel a bit of sliding if I go to cut back while going right, but it’s fine. Nothing I can’t keep under control. I’d rather have it loose so I can slide it when I want. Overall, it’s a keeper. I’ve been using it since this winter, and it hasn’t exploded, dented severly or had any other defects, save for me getting some water in the tail in the winter once. I have no idea how it got in, but I drained it and sealed the entire area right away and it’s never caused an issue since.

Improvements… Cause there will certainly be a remake in the future… Maybe a bit more tail rocker, maybe five boxes, maybe i’ll dare to try that color scheme in resin instead of paint. Maybe I’ll mess with a concave on this shape. I think my next project will be something longer though.

Foggy day in the winter in Janurary. This was fun, because the waves were usually a surprise until the fog burned off.

Looks good.  

Nice build thread, like to see more like this. 

Board looks good, great thread, good fun!

Just curious - did Greenlight cut the rocker into the panels, and did you actually glass it in the house?

It was one of their blanks, so there was rocker in it already. I don’t know if they had the hotwire device operational when I got that. 

And ha, yes, I did. It was epoxy first of all, so no poly fumes. It was winter too, so doing it in my 30 something degree garage wasn’t gonna work. I kept that room vented to the outside and closed off to the rest of the house, so I managed to keep it around upper sixties while not filling my house with epoxy fumes. I did sand and such in the garage, and it was quite cold. I think I’ll save my board bulding endevaours for warmer months though.

Nice work!  The tail pad is not crooked…everyone else’s perspective is.  If it surfs, success!

drzoidberg,

Nice work!!! 

Maybe a “comp leash” I use one on my 10-6 just hate being hog tyed.

#4 rolling around??? 3 looks like a keeper…

#4 will come eventually.

While I’ve got a thread running, what do people do for longboards for small riders? I’m 5’5" and 120lbs, 22 years old and in good shape (hooray for being young). The biggest board I’ve ever owned is a 6’4"x22", either 2.75"  or 3" thick. Pointy, full nose, about 15" nose and tail, wide point forward, diamond tail single fin. It barely sinks when I sit on it and duckdiving is pretty difficult. I can hang with the bigger boards when it’s small. But it’s not a longboard, and I want to try a longboard, shaping and riding one.

I don’t really know many people who surf, and none who ride longboards. so I’ve never ridden anything big. Biggest ever was a 7’ foamie board while trying to teach somebody. The rails were literally three inches thick, it didn’t turn, and took it off like a train on rails once you stood up. I told her no wonder why she can’t get passed learning to stand up, and she’s lighter than me. I now know the importance of rail shape better than before…

tl;dr Question is, if I wanted to do an all round, slightly nose rider focused longboard, do I really need a 9’6" or even a 9 footer? Not trying to make a 40lb tank here. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think I’d do better on a narrower, lighter and more sensitive template than a giant boat. Intended waves are whenever I feel like taking it out in jersey, more likely when it’s small and longboard friendly. But I’m not opposed to using it in things I’d normally shortboard in. 

For your size and intended use I would think you could go 8’ - 8’6".  The old rule of thumb for a longboard was 3’ longer than the rider is tall, IIRC.

You can do and ride any size Long-board you wish to build.  Take a look at old Photos of Donald Takayama he was not a big man yet was one of the best Long-board riders you would ever have the pleasure to see in action.  It really is a matter of what you want out of the board Glide, Nose riding more performance. 

Fun thread, board looks great!  I love riding logs but I thought I’d scale one down and see how she went.  I’m really happy with it.  I’m a little to big to nose ride it but I’ve snuck in a few Jersey cheater 5’s.  Brian and the Greenlight guys have changed my surfing experience forever, sounds like they have done the same for you… -mike

7’11" - 21.5" - 3"