And away we go.....A Mini-Simmons inspired build thread

It’s gonna be a bit slow, but I’ll keep it updated.  Got a Walker 9’4" blank in a trade today for an old kite.  Stoked on that.  I can get the rocker I want out of this blank…Dims for the board will be:

 

length:  5’4"

max width (2" above center):  22"

nose width (12" from nose): 20"

tail width (12" from tail): 19"

tail width: 19"

thickness:  3"

Just getting the curves right and then I’ll cut out the template and plane to thickness…I’ll keep the bottom flat and spoon out the nose on the deck.

 

 

 

 

Cool, I’ll be keeping an eye on this one. What rocker #'s you going with?

I read through 30 pages of the Mini Simmons thread and I still can’t decide what the hell I’m going to do as far as the bottom and rocker.

Tenover, can you go over what are the 'essentials' that make a Simmons and / or mini Simmons please ?

 There seems to be such a vast range of boards that look the same but do they all have something essential in common ?

. Is it the dims or overall shape ?

 Im not totally sure what a Simmons is, even tho I know one when I see it.

 Thanks.

The bottom will be flat (with the rocker), no concaves or hull shennanigans.  I want FAST.  The rocker will be, well…whatever it turns out to be. I tend to go more by “eye” when it comes to rocker anyways.  It’ll either surf or it won’t… :wink:

The cave…

surffoils-

I’m the wrong person to ask.  I’m going with what I’ve read on certain blogs as well as pulling in the outline just a bit.  I’m just a fan of the way they look in and out of the water, how I’ve seen them ride, and like everything I’ve heard.  I’ve only shaped about 10 boards (3 logs, a few fish, some eggs and a few shortboards), so I’m a total newbie.  Even if I KNEW exactly what needed to be done, I can guarantee you that I wouldn’t be able to translate that into my finished shape…LOL.  Just having fun. It’s been too long.

Thanks for that Tenover. I think the otheres might jump in and pass on a few guidelines that define a Simmons.

 As far as I know a Simmons has a blocky shape, wide tail and heaps of volume, and if Im wrong then it just shows how little I know. As usual.

 Some of the 'Simmons' boards just look like 'fish' boards.

 I think theres a few more things that would be attributed to a "traditional" Simmons design.

The “traditional mini simmons”, as far as I can tell, is almost like taking a chunk out of an actual Simmons board.  Very flat bottom, very parallel rails and has a lot of volume.  I believe they were originally made with twin keels set very far out and back on the rails/trailing edge.  Lots of modifications on the boards posted here…

no hull entry?!

I like the outline Tenover, good score on that blank. Not to hijack but here’s what I cooked up, maybe someone who knows better will chime in. My attempt at a hull entry to flat bottom, kinda pinched rails, don’t know if it will work. Maybe it will help you out, I like your approach of just eyeing it up and see what transpires though.

Negative.  Maybe.  :wink:

Rough outline cut.  Gotta true up the planshape now to make the curves smooth.  So far so good…

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Rough outline cut.  Gotta true up the planshape now to make the curves smooth.  So far so good.....

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I like it................

Don’t forget the hips.

 

 

No hips for me.  Also, I love the way these short boards look with a squared off nose, so I went that route too (It’s a 5’1" now…LOL).  Kept a TON of volume all the way through the tail and stepped out the deck just a little bit.  Can’t wait to ride this little thing.

Dude that thing is sick! Lovin the squared nose and angles. Reminds me of this thing from Star Trek.

2 questions:

I would like to do this with RR, but don’t want to buy a FULL kit for just this one board…Anyone in the SD area have a small amount that they would sell (epoxy, hardner and Additive F)?  How much do you think I’d need for this little guy?  If it’s going to take a bunch, I’ll just buy the full kit…It’s been so long since I’ve glassed, and I’ve only tried RR once and forgot everything I know…

 

I’d like to put a fin system in, but don’'t have any fancy jigs, so what fin system would be the EASIEST to install with just basic tools? 

 

 

Thanks.

LOL JK3-

hopefully it’ll ride better than that thing, but who knows…we’ll see.

Nevermind on the first question…I see RR/FoamEZ offers a “single board kit”…Perfect.

Sweet ride tenover!I usually get 2 large shortboards(6’8x21) out of a gallon and a half of RR epoxy with some resin to spare.The 96oz kit should be plenty to glass your board and set your fin system.Probox is one of the cheapest and easiest(and strongest!)fin systems to install,and you can put fcs fins in them also.They have some adjustable features too.