I saw stuff about it in the archives, but all the links are broken. Does anyone have pics as to what the jigs look like? Does anyone have jigs for rails?
I route all my outlines. I have seen boards shaped with a sander. But not a router. They spin so fast without a speed controller. But who’s to say it can’t be done. Good luck.
This link shows you how I do it. http://vimeo.com/37618792
Barry
Before there were really shaping machines there were rourer cutters. Templates to cut the deck outline then rocker and rail templates.
Pesce was using those rocker tables when he used shape in our shop back in the early nineties. He was introduced to it while shaping in Japan and brought one back with him. Rich Harbour had his own built to cut his rockers and decks. It was a monster and was built to accomodate up to an eleven foot blank. I used to cut some for him but it was quite a beast to run that router up and back. Seemed like Rich had hundreds of jigs hanging in that room. These are the early days of what became CNC machined surfboard. It helped the shapers replicate rockers they new worked well and take some of the work out of shaping the blank.
Cool historical stuff!
Brad
Sick artwork Barry! Looks like it takes a lot of patience to do all that paint. Do you mind me asking what tape you prefer for painting? Thanks, Mitch
I’ve seen pics of guys doing their rocker with a router…
Do a search for router sled.
Seems to me one of the wakesurf guys posted a shot of a router sled he made for doing the bottom rocker???
Always use quality 3M tape.
233 is the professionals choice.
I once broke & spun off a pencil bit off the router it stuck into a 3/4 sheet of plywood across the shop.
Speed controler and 1/2 bits are key. I use mill end high heliux bits.....CNC bits 1/2" x 5". They cut fast and clean. And wont snap off and lodge in your chest.
“Speed controler and 1/2 bits are key. I use mill end high heliux bits…CNC bits 1/2” x 5". They cut fast and clean. And wont snap off and lodge in your chest."
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I use a router sled for putting rocker in my "rails first" wood boards
back in 99 i did some blanks for harbour on his profiler,
brad's correct..............it's a beast !
truly,
unless you're going to reproduce the same board over and over again,,,,,,,,,,then shaping the traditional way is quicker,easier and just as accurate.
herb
Resinhead, where do you get 1/2"x 5" router bits? I route all my outlines and on thicker blanks I can’t cut all the way through them. Mine are 1/2" x 3".
Mill end high helix bits? CNC bits? Where do I get those? Thanks, Barry
so much for being “hand shaped”
just sayin…
profilers and full length template routers are permissable in order to retain the exclusive handshaper status. but computer numerical control that router and you are out of the club! there is a list of permissable power tools and barry snyder compiled it.
No-One, I have been routing my out lines since before there were shaping machines. Nothing cleaner than the routed outline. I cut all my other customs with a handsaw and shureform. List of permissable power tools? Let me see, electric planer, router, beltsander, jigsaw, sander, all of which I have numerous of.
Needless to say, after nearly 30 years of building boards, I have a couple tools.
Router speed-control, made my own 20 years ago.
It’s the longer router bits I’m after.(1/2"x 5")
This is my power tool of choice.
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Using a router for an outline isn’t a bad idea, if you have good templates. Its not cheating. Relying on the cnc to “shape” your board is lame, and makes those without the skills into egomaniacs that think they can really shape, but the reality is they can’t. As Barry said, jacks hire a guy who can, like me, and then put their label on it and have it scanned; it happens all the time.
I use all router templates with a Porter Cable D-handle router that has a 4" router bit to cut out the perimiter. It makes the outline cuts perfect. The rest is all planer and hand shaped. Like Barry my tool of choice is the Skil 100 planer.
ghettorat:If you hand shape your own boards, then have them scanned and files created, that can be tweaked around a bit for slightly different lengths, widths and thickness. I see no problem with that . What do you think?
I like shaping boards with a skill 100 and and a bunch of other tools. I enjoy feeling the board come to life under my hands. I have to clean up by hand crappy files all the time for people who had stuff scanned or computer generated. The problem is when somebody tweaks a file something else screws up, and then I fix it with my know how, and they get the credit; sometimes I get royalties but most often I suspect I don’t because its their name on the boards, and alas I am a ghettorat, but I don’t have to market my brand all the time, and act like a soap-bubble.
I like shaping boards with a skill 100 and and a bunch of other tools. I enjoy feeling the board come to life under my hands. I have to clean up by hand crappy files all the time for people who had stuff scanned or computer generated. The problem is when somebody tweaks a file something else screws up, and then I fix it with my know how, and they get the credit; sometimes I get royalties but most often I suspect I don’t because its their name on the boards, and alas I am a ghettorat, but I don’t have to market my brand all the time, and act like a soap-bubble.
Barry. I have been routing outlines with these 1/2" by 4 1/8" foam cutting bits. I don’t cut through stringers with them. Just the foam. Then hand saw the stringers off. Reasonably priced at $44:
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