Art Versus Durability

General Discussion
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I was going to call this thread are shapers a bunch of moaning pricks but that’s stereotyping just a bit. Maybe I should of called it are customers a bunch of moaning pricks but that’s stereotyping a bit as well. Surfboards are beautiful creations in the right hands but surfboards are generally not going to be hung on the wall of an art gallery for people to admire. They are to be surfed.

And because they are to be surfed they should all handle the rigors placed on them for a decent length of time. This includes dents, breakage, delams and all the other nasties you can throw at a board. The answer is pretty simple. Make a stronger board. Compsand if you will.

I think there’s this attitude amongst certain people that because it took countless hours to make and looks very nice that you should buy another one if it falls apart on it’s maiden voyage. I think it’s this sort of attitude that shafts this industry sometimes. Or maybe not.

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Its tough to experiment, financially anyway, on compsands. I dont have the experience nor the equipment to make them myself. I would rather shape PU or EPS boards myself, lay them up by hand, surf them for a bit and move on. If I had to spend $750 to $1000 each month per board for a custom compand I probably wouldnt be having as much fun or would be homeless.

That said, has anyone really had a board ‘fall apart’ on their first session due to something other than bad luck or stupidity? I mean, my daily driver is almost a year old and aside from some foot wells its in good shape.

Jon

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one mark of great art

is that it endures.

good art

and great art

are mere shadows apart.

stuff on walls

is stuff on walls

the stuff that 's burried

with pharoahs is respected as an antiquity

some is good art

some is great art

a job well done aint cheep.

confusing a production market product

with ‘art’ is a stretch at best.

Antique roadshow is a place

for old junk to be Identified

as collectable.Some people

pay money for old junk

and add it to their collection.

Well made surfboards can be

ruined by abusive opperators

and curators.

Separation of construction methods

and quality of materials does not

golden line in the sand make.

a credible end result finished board

is neither poly , styro , compusand ,or any other selected material

inherently denotes a quality product.

…ambrose…

or art or

craft.

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"I was going to call this thread are shapers a bunch of moaning pricks but that’s stereotyping just a bit. "

…I keep looking for the photos but you never post them…

You spew out a bunch of nonsense but never back it up with anything solid.

“Art Versus Durability”…perfict chance for DeanBro to post some photos of super strong boards with cool art…

…Nope…Just words…

You don’t build boards…you just start threads…

Ray

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I would buy a Sways tshirt with tha slogan. Awesome.

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hi ray to be fair there are plenty of other who dont build boards on this site. dean builds boards

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Any chance you could keep your problems to yourself Ray?

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Do you practice what you preach?

I assume these are your Abyss surfboards as that is the URL in your signature. They aren’t very “Arty” so I would hope they are durable as hell.

Why not compsand?

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Agreed.

I’m still trying to get my hands on the roy logo so I can put that one up on Cafe Press.

I’m pretty sure that we could fund the site without advertising just by selling funny shirts.

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stingray wrote:
You don't build boards.....you just start threads....
I would buy a Sways tshirt with tha slogan. Awesome.

This is some funny shit…

And, thank god after the soap opera I just read about those fins w/wing… That’s some sad stuff… And, why did the fact it’s proven to only increase performance in jets by @ 5% get over looked… Hard to say how much that’s gonna translate… Ah - I’m digressing…