has any one made a one fin board… or even with side bites where the center fin is offcenter from stringer? did it make it easier to go backside? gracias, adam
Adam, here’s a few shots of project boards.
Not a single fin, but center is off-set.
I’m still experimenting.
More to come.
Barry Snyder
…hello Barrysnyder, very cool man. I think that the next big think to set kind of a base in those experiments is to use 4WFS under the glass plugs, so you have those off centered fins + different toe ins and tilts+ forward rear movements…
nice barry…
I don’t ride quads a whole lot cause I personally don’t like’em, or twin fins for that matter, but those things are bitchin!
Yeah i’ve just been wondering about how a single finned board with a symmetrical outline would work if you routed the box to the slight left or right of the stringer depending on your stance. if anyone has not tried this but has an idea on how it might go I would like to hear that too
I think you could do an asym single no problem… I’d suggest a box, and a reminder you may need a few attempts to get your own trip down.
Reverb - I love the 4 ways… I’ve found I like more cant under my toes, at least on my latest “Sally 3” quad. And starting doing quads with RedX, after learning with tri’s I like an asym fin set up - toes further foreward - I started quads with that basis, and learned I like more spread between my toes… The point for me is, being able to adjsut my fins has been one of the best things for me and my boards.
Barry - Those boards look great. Do you suggest a lay out based on reg./goofy foot, or???
I used to do the longer “round pin” side on my toe side, and thicker wider, shorter, heel.
this is a 9-8 Simmonsish with offset fin…because of the wide tail…it was easy to ride front or backside…really fun but after I broke it in two at Malibu, it was never quite as good after repair…
I have a 9-4 square tail that has an offset fin…actually there are two fin boxes side by side with one dead center. The board flew with the fin on the side of middle…but it was hard to change direction or kick it out and in the crowds of malibu, it just seemed too dangerous…so I put it away about 10 years ago…
I’ve done this one recently. Made it for the rights at Yallingup on a good day. Surfed it at about head and a half and it was just what I had in mind. Nice smooth bottom turns and a shaper top turn/cutbacks. Only had the one session in the stuff I designed it for but looking forward to more.
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I have a couple of old (early 60s) longboards with offset fins...
I've ridden both going right and left. Can't say I notice a big difference but they're big heavy boards.
TaylorO,
Yeah I also use the short rail on my heel side. I also put a little extra rocker too. Really lessens the pressure required to put the rail on edge.
I’m still experimenting. (It’s a process)
Reverb,
I would like to try that fin system for these.(4WFS)
The more variables I change, the quicker I can learn!
Cool board P-co. I would love to try that!
Here’s some more photo’s of my asymmetrical
Barry Snyder
morey pope blue machine(in the 60’s) came with an offset fin. i think it was to help keep board into the screaming, low tide sand suckers at places like rincon a little better. can’t recall exactly. i think it bob coopers deal…
yeah the more I think about it, the more it makes sense to have an asymmetrical outline and not just an offset fin… oh well, maybe I’ll try it someday… anyways, neat pics. thanks everyone
Back in the day, guys were making outlines that were pin tail on one side and half a swallow on the other. Symmetrical shape up front, and fin in the center. I never rode one of them. You get a rounder tail curve on one side and a straighter line on the other. Today there’s a lot more engineering going on. Not sure if the old design is still relevant, but I think it could work for mid size semi-gun. Maybe in the under 7’ range.
**Bob Cooper took his personal MP Blue Machine a little further than an offset fin. It the heyday of the "Coops" rule of Rincon, I recall stopping and eyeballing Bob's board lying on the curb along the road (no parking lot then). At first it appeared to be missing a rear rail! Maybe not the first asymmetrical board but the first I ever saw. Anyone who remembers Cooper surfing low tide Rincon will attest the beard flying in the wind made him look like he was really flyin'**
This is a ‘crew’ shirt from the movie Big Wednesday. The guy in the photo is Bob Cooper.
