Hi All, I’ve seen a few notes about basting laps, I’ve searched archives with not much luck, what I’m confused about is this, after bottom and top lam are done, is that when you “baste” the top laps before hotcoating? Or do you baste right after doing bottom lam on the top laps? And if so, what is the effect of putting lam resin directly on the top deck? Sorry if these are lame questions, but I’m still somewhat a rookie, but my glass jobs are getting much better[smile] Thanks in advance for any hints
Hi All, I’ve seen a few notes about basting laps, I’ve searched archives > with not much luck, what I’m confused about is this, after bottom and top > lam are done, is that when you “baste” the top laps before > hotcoating? Or do you baste right after doing bottom lam on the top laps? > And if so, what is the effect of putting lam resin directly on the top > deck? Sorry if these are lame questions, but I’m still somewhat a rookie, > but my glass jobs are getting much better[smile] Thanks in advance for any > hints …PUT IT ON AFTER YOU LAM IT ALL UP.Herb
Hi All, I’ve seen a few notes about basting laps, I’ve searched archives > with not much luck, what I’m confused about is this, after bottom and top > lam are done, is that when you “baste” the top laps before > hotcoating? Or do you baste right after doing bottom lam on the top laps? > And if so, what is the effect of putting lam resin directly on the top > deck? Sorry if these are lame questions, but I’m still somewhat a rookie, > but my glass jobs are getting much better[smile] Thanks in advance for any > hints Basting laps is kind of like a prime coat of laminating resin that fills in the bumps and strings from glassing.It makes it easier to clean up the the lap area.As a novice glasser try this,glass the bottom,when the resin kicks flip the board over and paint a thin coat of laminating resin over the messy lap line.After it cures take a sanding block and level out the strings and bumps,be carefull not to get into the foam.Now go ahead and glass the deck,When that cures hot coat the deck as normal,don’t tape it off.JUst clean up the drips etc.Now you can flip the board and paint a coat of lam resin over the the lap line area.Be carefull and don’t let it run, you are just adding a little bit of resin to fill things in.Lastly tape the board off and hot coat the bottom as normal.^This is kind of hard to explain but I hope it helps you out Dewey.
That is a good tip. I never heard of that. Of course I’ve only glassed a few boards. Can’t wait to try it. Lots of little tips out there that helps the whole process a little easier.
That is a good tip. I never heard of that. Of course I’ve only glassed a > few boards. Can’t wait to try it. Lots of little tips out there that helps > the whole process a little easier. Before I hot coat the deck I baste the rails from above the bottom lap line to the rail tuck. this will keep you from hitting the weave when you sand the board. This works really good for sanded finish boards,it’s not necessary for gloss finish boards but I do it to all my glass jobs. Aloha Kokua Fiberglass
i prefer “basting” with sanding resin. it’s hard to not get any discolorazation when sanding or heating up the lam. resin. you just have to make sure it’s all sanded before applying the hot coat.the hot coat won’t bond with itself if it’s not sanded. just try diff. things and see what works best for your self…
I was just thinking about something. If you add resin around the rail area only, seems to me like the inside of the board would be lower than the basted rails. I guess what i’m asking is after hot coating, would’nt the inside of the board be lower than the rails thus having to sand more of the rail to blend in with the center? or would the hot coat even everything out? I hope this makes sense. I’m not challenging anyone’s knowlede, I just really want to know. It’s very frustrating hitting the weave. I’m definitly trying this on my next board.
I was just thinking about something. If you add resin around the rail > area only, seems to me like the inside of the board would be lower than > the basted rails. I guess what i’m asking is after hot coating, would’nt > the inside of the board be lower than the rails thus having to sand more > of the rail to blend in with the center? or would the hot coat even > everything out? I hope this makes sense. I’m not challenging anyone’s > knowlede, I just really want to know. It’s very frustrating hitting the > weave. I’m definitly trying this on my next board. Think about it this way, when you hot coat the deck or bottom the resin lays there, but the resin flows down the rail over your tape and on to the floor. This makes your rails have a thinner hot coat and that’s one reason you might hit weave when sanding rails,so a little extra resin on the rails won’t make a lot of difference but it might just prevent hitting the weave.I don’t know your sanding procedure but machine sand the rails then fine tune them by hand,so I like a little extra tolerance to work with. Let’s face it, before a board is sanded it really looks rough, but a good sander reshapes it back to as close to the original shape as possible. I sand all the boards that come thru my shop myself because I know what my shapers want.The only other people I will let sand boards are the shapers themselves.I think all shapers should know how to sand.
Think about it this way, when you hot coat the deck or bottom the resin > lays there, but the resin flows down the rail over your tape and on to the > floor. This makes your rails have a thinner hot coat and that’s one reason > you might hit weave when sanding rails,so a little extra resin on the > rails won’t make a lot of difference but it might just prevent hitting the > weave.I don’t know your sanding procedure but machine sand the rails then > fine tune them by hand,so I like a little extra tolerance to work with. > Let’s face it, before a board is sanded it really looks rough, but a good > sander reshapes it back to as close to the original shape as possible. I > sand all the boards that come thru my shop myself because I know what my > shapers want.The only other people I will let sand boards are the shapers > themselves.I think all shapers should know how to sand. … …Right on the money,Kokua…shapes should at least have glassed a few boards so he knows what a glassjob requires.Herb
…Right on the money,Kokua…shapes should at least have > glassed a few boards so he knows what a glassjob requires.Herb …SHAPERS should glass a few of their own shapes,so HE/SHE knows what goes into glassing a board,and in the longrun it will make them a better shaper.Herb …too much saltwater,not enough waves?
…SHAPERS should glass a few of their own shapes,so HE/SHE > knows what goes into glassing a board,and in the longrun it will make them > a better shaper.Herb>>> …too much saltwater,not enough waves? You’ll love this story Herb. Couple of years ago a guy comes to Kauai to have Brewer teach him to shape. He pays Dick a few grand for the lessons thinking he’ll jump right into the shaping bay and start mowing foam. Here’s the kicker,Dick takes him to the sanding pit and tells him to sand 5 boards instead. The guy is upset and thinks Dick has a screw loose or something. He didn’t realize that this was part of his lesson plan and leaves Kauai without ever learning to shape. By the way Dick kept the money. One of the shapers I work with would be a great sander if he didn’t shape. Aloha Kokua
You’ll love this story Herb. Couple of years ago a guy comes to Kauai to > have Brewer teach him to shape. He pays Dick a few grand for the lessons > thinking he’ll jump right into the shaping bay and start mowing foam. > Here’s the kicker,Dick takes him to the sanding pit and tells him to sand > 5 boards instead. The guy is upset and thinks Dick has a screw loose or > something. He didn’t realize that this was part of his lesson plan and > leaves Kauai without ever learning to shape. By the way Dick kept the > money. …Now that’s funny!I wonder what made him think that taking lessons from RB would make him a shaper anyway?I would have kept the money too!That lesson kinda reminds me of the first ,“Karate Kid” movie…Shape no, okay. Shape yes,okay…Shape I guess so,get squashed like grape.Herb
Id bet good money that guy runs around saying Brewer taught him to shape