Hey please tell me who invented the bat tail??
it was batman dude
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Hey please tell me who invented the bat tail??
I heard the dude raked in a fortune after about 5 years after the battail invention,
then moved to Indo and made another fortune in guano.
Or maybe it was the other way around.
in a pinch, i’d credit Wil Jobson…but don’t hold me to that…there are plenty of other here who’d know far better than me.
although…just to clarify…are you talking about a real bat tail…or that batman-lookin’ thing?!..contrary to popular opinion, they are not one in the same.
“invented”?
Yes, invented. Like the guy (or was it a girl?) who invented the pointed nose. I send him 5 cents for every board I make.[code]
in a pinch, i'd credit Wil Jobson........but don't hold me to that.......there are plenty of other here who'd know far better than me.
I won’t hold you to it, but that’s what I would say as well… part of Wil’s twinzer development.
everybody repete after me…
I invented the bat tail
Hey please tell me who invented the bat tail??
Aloha bali1joe and others…
Is what you guys are calling a “Bat Tail”, similar to or the same as, what was called a “Star Tail” back in the 70’s.
Yeah, no one invented the bat tail or any of its derivatives.
They are just a fashion statement inserted into the brackets of a swallow tail.
So in essence, they can be viewed as a fashion statement glommed onto the functionality of either a square or swallow tail.
During the single fin heydays when swallow tails were strong.
Jeff Ho shaped one or more of them to get some more bite/control out of the tail and maybe something more
Didnt help then, and now decades later with more fins to do the work of hold,
they serve even less of a design enhancement.
All of this is in the archives.
Heres a nugget for ya’, ,…Mike Stewart invented it in the mid 90’s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_tail
This feature on William “Stretch” Reidel is informative. Listen to number 5 and 10. Stretch says a Mike Crouteau (spelling?) was doing bat tails in 1984. He credits the bat tail quad design to Nathan Fletcher.
http://www.surfline.com/surfnews/photo_bamp.cfm?id=10040&ad=1
I cannot say that I invented the"bat-tail" , but will say that during my time in SC during the early to mid-eighty’s and eventual late ninty’s that I utilized this tail design and know that to the best of my knowledge that it was widly considered to be of Croteau origins. I really am a “copy-cat” of good design therory as opposed to some “Moron” who thinks he has invented it all. Let credit lay where it should. Croteau as Schrodel, and Coletta are three of the most underrated shapers in this world. All of “Surf City” origins. Lowel
no really it was batman
note the tail
1967
Stretch says a Mike Crouteau (spelling?) was doing bat tails in 1984. He credits the bat tail quad design to Nathan Fletcher. (Pretty Correct)
For the record:
The Bat tail was added to Nathan Fletcher’s design with crab rails and a quad set-up. It was developed in San Clemented which is correct. Mike Crouteau may very well be the First Bat Tail maker. The Shaper of late was “COLE” who worked on the design for Nathan - Nathan brought the design to “Stretch” - Stretch took it futher and made it main stream. The Fletcher Family is pretty creative. All of them! You put Stretch and Nathan together and your going to have sucess.
The Bat Tail made a come back with a combination of Design Elements:
Grap Rails - Something to hold on to while airborne
Quad - 4 x 4 on the water
Batail - Great cosmetic touch
The synergies from these three elements took off big time.
The looks are really clean. Stretch has done a excellent job of making them main stream.
This summer we will see even more of them!
I had a Brewer star/bat tail shaped by Steve Dunham that I bought at Lecudia surf shop in 1975 or 76
Grant Burrows, who I met at Windansea in 1958, decided to shape his own board in 1972, (at age 58) using a design he had come up with. Grant claimed the design worked exceptionally well. His design was, what today would be called, a DOUBLE CONCAVE BATTAIL GUN. Grant was a well known, and well liked, regular at Windansea, at a time when Crouteau could have seen the board, or talked to Grant about his design. I suspect the real truth is that the Battail design was ‘‘invented’’ more than one time, in more than one place, by more than one shaper/dreamer.
I believe Bill’s correct for the most part.
I think the bats were created from over shaped diamondtails with hi-vee.
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This feature on William “Stretch” Reidel is informative. Listen to number 5 and 10. Stretch says a Mike Crouteau (spelling?) was doing bat tails in 1984. He credits the bat tail quad design to Nathan Fletcher.
Could it be you guys are more focused on the development of a ‘surfboard model’
and not a tail design.
Howzit riomar, I had Steve shape me a 6’4" swallow tail just before moving to Kauai from Oahu and it was one of my favorite boards. Rode it till it finally died.Aloha,Kokua
whamm! baM boom! Bat man !!!