Still can’t get my quiver dialed… what are your opinions on the best designs for average (== crap) east coast beach break conditions? I’m talking bouys at 3.5 @ 7 with a bit of bump to it. That’s probably the average surfable day in LI… Any good ideas? Higher volume short boards? Twin fish?
thanks!
Yea, what do I know after surfing up and down this coast for 30 years. Whole point is the OP needs to give more info.
I beg to differ. LI beachbreaks are commonly of the slower, rolling type of wave…as opposed to the top-to-bottom pitching waves found in NJ. Granted, NJ has some mushburgers, too. But that’s true for most EC beachbreaks.
I send a lot of these to Long Island/Montauk area. Craig Lieder Jr. rides and sells them at Sunset Surf Shack. Lars, George and Brad sell & ride them in Wainscott @ Main Beach Surf Shop. They are also popular thru Saturday’s NYC the Soho & West Village shops as well as their stores in Tokyo & Kobe.
The waves on Long Island are mostly the same set ups as what you find in New Jersey with the exception of the Montauk area where its a mix of beachbreak and rocky reefs. You’re only talking about a short area of coastline between NJ’s beaches and Long Island…an area less than the distance from Malibu to Imperial Beach.
I agree with hopper only instead of log a mini simmions does it for me
The question is about a board suitable for weak beachbreak on Long Island, NY. Not Oahu, not New Jersey. I am all too familiar with waves very similar to those on LI.
Artz asks some very relevant questions.
In general, I’d suggest something with generous volume, low rocker, and few ‘gimmicks’. An alternative would be a fish, if you are able to adapt properly.
Like people said, NJ varies a lot between summer, winter and storm time. For summer I’ve been on my 5’4"x20.75 really wide and stubby twin and trailer thing. 17" tail at 1’ is what I mean by really wide. That’s if its good, for summer. If it’s good and clean, I ride that or my single fin, and it’s it’s small and clean or just small I ride the single cause it’s got a lot of foam.
When designing the 5’4", I went with the “use tons of surface area to extract power from weak surf” approach. It also has a more relaxed rocker, not potato chip style. No concaves, but I like to slide and have excessively loose boards so I figured flat would be fine.
mako224…
The new format seems to make it difficult to quote you. Damned if I can find a "quote" button.
Anyway…if you want to pull the "number of years" card, I have you beat by 20. I've been surfing the EC since 1963. So, throwing a number at me doesn't equal a "trump" card. Just sayin…
I know nothing. You are clearly the zen master. I bow down to you Oh Great One.
The Best? Do you mean the best for you or the best for me? The best short board? or the best Longboard? or best big boy board?
Do you want to go outside the box? Ride something that will have the locals giving you the stink-eye because you dare to ride an diffrent type craft?
The stoker V looks pretty tasty. I coud see a good surfer on one slightly shorter then the normal HPSB and ripping on one of those.
Another Board would be a wide round pin with a slightly pulled in nose full of meat. The ones I have seen look like a lot of fun.
Then there is the Fish. Learn how to surf a fish and you will be giggling like a maniac while your friends are hopping up and down to get some juice out of the wave, you will have lots and lots of energy to make sections and pull into any little opening the surf offers.
I've got a friend who absolutely destroys mushburgers on a Bing Dharma. Watched him win a contest on the thing last weekend in a very stacked final…made the other guys look silly on regular boards.