bike trip around newzealand

on my next big surf trip im taking is going to be in newzealand…i thought about the rented bus/camper thing…seems to enclosed…

what i really want to do is ride a bike towing boards and my nail bags…

my questions is …better island? north or south? for the shouldered roads

and surf access…

spring or fall?

hoping this comming fall (next year)…what about buying a good bike over there? you guys probably have better bikes there…

thanks for all your help…getting pumped on this plan…its keeping me hard at work saving coin…cheers

Well!

I’m going to try and talk you into doing the camper thing…

Or buy a cheap car and camp.

You are going to need to take your accomodation with you if you want to surf most spots other than the town centres!

Camping, either in a camper or campsite is no problem in New Zealand.

Very safe. There are free camping rules, but permits are easily arranged (you barely even need them), and farmers will let you camp on their land if you’re nice. A six pack of beer never goes astray.

Doing it by bike would be great, but theres 2 reasons you have to take into acccount:

The hills! this is one mountainous country. Auckland alone is built on something like 38 volcanoes. Or was it 48?

The distances - NZ is long and thin, so it’s actually a long way to go anywhere.

A couple of thousand MILES from tip to tip.

So, you’d be going up and down for a long time.

If you have that much time and energy, go for it! Theres enough room on the roads, despite being thin.

The traffic is sparse outside the cities.

For example, you can expect to drive 250 miles in about 4 hours. slow going. twists and turns.

Surf - take your pick! Two huge coast lines, many different angles, swell all year round.

We have problems with the prevailing winds.

Thats the only reason that NZ isn’t more recognised in the surfing world, cos of those bloody westerlies!

North Island, I would say go in Summer - warmth, and tropical cyclone swells that light up the east coast.

South Island - you could go skiing in winter… I’ll let someone else cover the surf down there.

Just remember when planning - all the waves are away from where the people are!

Come on down!

Kit

lots of hils…

like what kind of vertical on these suckers.?colorado style?

westerlies are off shore on the east side of the island right?

thanks again

tj

i wouldnt

people do

but the roads are dodgy in a lot of areas and drivers arent considerate to cyclists

also most of the scenery isnt altogether that impressive

mainly sheep paddocks with excessive erosion

car bodies that sort of thing

odd patches down south with some nice national park

where i live it pretty unusual to see a patch of native forest

new zealand has a green image BUT its not

cars are cheap as shit over here

like 500$nz for a great little car

buy a car(off www.trademe.co.nz) and a tent when you get here

drive around camping

sell it for what you paid when you leave

sweet as bro

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westerlies as in onshore on the westcoast

and too strong offshore on the east

sick waves

but be nice to locals

strangers talk like friends in the surf here

locals can be considered extra friendly

But ferocious if annoyed

no kidding…

the pics i have see of newzealand i guess have had some insane trout rivers and nice forest…i guess that would be more inland.i would want to be closer

to the ocean where its mostly wind swept ?

oregon has a big long travel bike community…got me thinking

yea i know some newzealenders funny humor.

total respect for locals on good local breaks.

i can understand all that …

let me know if you’re going to go forward with the bike trip. I can shoot you plans on how to build a badass trailer for bikes for around 30 bucks, if you can scrounge a wheel set. Ive got 2 trailers, one just for my paddleboard/SUPs, and one that can run logs/ shortboards/ fish/firewood/dogs/friends…

I love riding my bike everywhere. Its my dream to one day be able to not own a car…

Its very feasible, you just have to suck it up and do it. Then you could either ship your trailer, or Im sure someone on here has an oxyacetylene torch to help you out. Takes about 6 hours start to paint drying…

check this out…

http://bikecart.pedalpeople.com/index.html

yeah mate

the pictures always show lovely views of picutresque forests and lovely wilderness

and it is here

in the south there is some large wilderness areas

in the north its four hours drive from anywhere to anywhere

through bare eroded sheep paddocks

or cleared pinus raidiata forestry blocks

to see any native trees etc.

the trout fishing is great though

wow nice link…

great ideas for the cart part…thats what i need now…

are most of the sheepland flat areas clearcuts?

they may not seem like much when driving buy

but when your on a bike things look very different…

those cart are awesome

thanks Acheataux

There is no way in the world i would ride a bike round NZ

Drivers here are bad real bad

they dont care about other cars let alone bikes

if you do decide to ride

where a t shirt with a target on it

you may as well cause thats what the drivers will see when they see you

if you really want to bike

come here buy a cheap car and a bike when you get some where relaxed and nice then do a little trip on the bike

surf its all around

there are times of the day when wind is not so much of a problem

you will most likely have more of a problem finding some one to surf with

heaps of places where it no crowded

in fact there is no one there at all

mike

Tjd

I went home to NZ earlier this year and had 5 months tripping around and catching up with family and surfing. We (wife and 3 kids) brought an old 6m bus and travelled around in that. It was small enough to get to most places and big enough to keep the piece on rainy days.

I didn’t chase the surf around but still had many good surfs, some by myself and others with a few crew. Had great surfs on both the coasts.

We meet a few crew travelling that were jumping on the net and reading swellmap and doing the (6 + hour) drives coast to coast and north to south to chase the surf and they were getting plenty of waves.

I would also suggest that you don’t get a bike, a small station wagon/van and a tent would be the best option. As sabs suggested take/get a bike as there is some great MB to be done.

Silly you need to shift from the dry hawkes bay area (even through MPen is great). Heaps off green bush/streams around the country….Heaps of free camping and cheap campgrounds close to surf. great trip that i plan on doing again and again…

yea getting to the surf or chasing the surf would not be an option on a bike…that exactly why i dont want to drive ( i would be chasing the surf the hole time…checking the internet… not relaxing…with a bike your there and if the surf comes up… thats a big extra

i know theres always trout fishing,i will probably meet 10x more people with a bike…im really not into the whole mountain bike scene but its a thought…

i have a good tent …i actually had it made in newzealand its a kiwi tent to keep the rain out…

you really get to see the land by bike you miss so much in a car so much you dont even realize what you fly by when driving…

thanks for all the replys

look man there are some amazing rides

like the heaphy track or down in fjord land

1000 s of miles of tracks

no cars, just tracks

amazing forests and wilderness areas

im just saying your better off driving there.

because the rest of new zealand is clearfelled sheeppaddocks

how many sheep, carbodies,willow,gorse,pinus radiata,and barbed wire fences and crappy fibro shacks do you need to see

cuz thats what there

i know it not in the brochures

NZ is a good example of how much a damage a very small population can do in small island

anyway im sorry im prolly too negative(sorry)

its hard being a greeny in a country full of complacency

there are areas worth riding bikes in

northland.corramandel.the mountains.Kahurangi.fjordland/westcoast

cant comment about eastcoast south island cuz i haven been past kaikoura

you will score more waves ,more nice rides and more trout if you get a car with racks

i personally wouldnt want to waste weeks of my holidays staring at sheep and gorse the whole time

(gorse is noxious weed that has taken hold over here)

tjd

My wife and I spent a few weeks cycling in NZ about 10 yrs ago, flew our bikes in from the UK. It is very hilly, they do have cycling maps of the main routes with all the gradients on, really useful.

You would be wise to take a mountain bike as the roads aint that good, you have to wear a helmet by law.

The logging trucks will try to squish you for a laugh. Small roads with US size trucks + trailers= not nice for biking!!

I ride regularly in the UK, which is busy (60 million cars!) but I had the Sh*t scared out of me on a number of occasions.

The South Island has less traffic, but bigger hills.

I would do it in a car next time, even though the experience was unforgettable in many ways.

Good travels

this whloe time i was thinking newzealand was a place with really enviromentally clean living standards…i heard that cars had to be kept rust free…

       a car? its sounding pretty good now..due to the fact about loggers and bike people,this is oregon, i know that story..and we have bike lanes..i wasnt figur'n log trucks..how many logging trucks ...



    didnt know this was a big industry...guess i better do some more searching...i have some pine from there and it just just beautiful..
Howzit tjd, I want to know about the rust free cars,must be a joke since anyone living near the coast will get rust. Kauai is one of the rust capitals of the world and thats why I don't buy new cars any more. Actually bought a new truck years ago and after a closer look found some quarter sized rust bubbles in the bed of it, probably from crossing the ocean on the barge. If they outlawed rusty cars here there would only be new cars on the road and those wouldn't last to long. Aloha,Kokua

Didnt mean to freak you too much!!, most of the trucks were around Rotarua and up into the Coramandel. I don’t think the south island has a logging industry to speak of, just lots of sheep! Most of the other cyclists were German or Japanese and kitted out for really long distance cycling.

One highlight of our trip was cycling from Rotarua to the coast and finding a campsite in Oamakaroa (sp) with a natural spring heated spa pool right on the beach. That really sorted out the saddle soreness. I seem to remember a really heavy rain shower while we were in the spa, with steam rising off the water. Happy times!!

It wasn’t all bad!!

yea kokua, rust is heavy ,neet stuff

but newzealand is a bigger place…

and this may keep the car repair bondo guys nice and busy

maybe it was a joke , i just thought by law you really have to keep up on your car there…good idea…although most of a car can be recycled. or just end up in the ditch to get overrun by sugar cane and vines of all sort…

peace

have you seen the inconvenient truth?

Yeah I second all of the above.

Come here to cycle and camp or come here to surf,but not both. 

Cycling- the roads in the picturesque out of the way places are steep as ,rough,very lonely and frequented by a few ignorant,impatient drivers and LOTS of huge road hogging trucks (logging,cattle and freight).

That said ,if you're on your own you could well find some friendly country folk will invite you into their homes for a night here and there. 

The weather can be VERY fickle and often very windy. 

Surfing- you really need to be mobile.The waves and weather patterns are quite changable,and the good spots tend to be well apart.It can be heaven one day,hell the next,and you’ll want to follow the rainbow.

I think a little beater of a car and some bike racks is a good option.

Just gotta make some decisions about what you’r looking for.

World wide,early autumn seems a good time of year for chasing surf.The weather’s still settled,and the winter swells are starting to hit.

basically there is a corrupt warrant of fitness system

where the car has to be checked for roadworthyness every 6 months

the testers are generally overly harsh and small patches of rust the size of a coin must be welded

a testing station has advertizing of there mates mechanics etc.

and mechanics that test are just creating work for themselves

therefore it becomes too expensive to keep a perfectly good car maintained

and as there is cheap unregulated jap imports

why would you bother maintaining a car.

so average working class kiwis just a buy another one every year

hence the car bodies all over the place

in fact my favorite surfbreak

whick is littered with broken bottles and rubish from fisherman

also has a car body dumped there every second week as well.

kiwis are as about as green as a toxic waste plant

there are highly contaminated sites all over new zealand

tourism NZ are the biggest liars in the universe

if it wasnt fo the foresight of a few amazing individuals in NZ s history

it would be a wasteland

Wow,

Reading this thread you Kiwi’s must live in a different New Zealand from me. I’m in the Bay of Plenty at the moment, but hail from the deep south (Dunedin), both the north & south islands offer completely different experiences for you to enjoy.

The north is slightly warmer, it is more densly populated, more cars, more surfers & more social problems. The south is by far the prettier & more ‘New Zealand’ of the two, the scenery is epic, less crowded (relative to NZ) the people are more friendly, things like cars, houses etc are cheaper.

Kiwi’s love to be down on themselves and their wonderful country; they think they have racial problems & social issues caused by Maori displacment off their native lands 160 odd years ago - bollocks. The spirit of Aloha is alive & well here - give it & you’ll get it. Our country has no handguns, our beachs are clean & safe, almost no pollution discharge into stormwater systems, we have no snakes, no nasty spiders, no gangs of real note, a crowded surf for me out from my house here in Mt Maunganui is 6 people. At Raglan (Manu Bay) on a cracking perfect day a crowd is 50 people in the water. Cars are cheap & safe, fuel is cheap at $1.38 per Ltr, you don’t need to have compulsary insurance to drive, fresh fruit & vegtables are high quality & cheap, meat & other produce is likewise. Travelling cheap you can live on $30 NZ dollars a day easy.

If you come here the best way to travel is a cheap car you can sleep in the back, start Auckland & do a loop of the north island, or perhaps criss-cross from west to east depending on swell. After that cross the ferry to the south island & budget a week or so at Kaikoura, see some epic whales & surf with snow on mountain peaks as your backdrop. Drink some fresh & lovely beer made locally. The further south you travel you’ll experience colder water (booties required & a 3/4mm any time from march-november) and have totally uncrowded & enjoyable waves. Reach Otago & head inland to Queenstown & party hard in the adventure capital of the world…the sell the car to a like-minded tourist & fly home happy & tired.

Or…you can believe the losers :slight_smile: