http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67pGmOxZSvE
Looks tasty!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67pGmOxZSvE
Don’t know what went wrong there - pretty sure this one works!
Love the way the guy just dips his finger in and just eats it!!! Unreal.
Does it yellow? Because for some strange reason stupid surfers still want white boards.
cool
in states…
is this the same stuff?
http://www.canonburyarts.co.uk/bioresin.html
if it is, these guys are in UK so perhaps a testcase is in order?
I’d be super stoked to hear ride reports and strength/lifespan info! … trips me out. They say it’s got a bit of a yellow tinge here: http://entropysurfboards.blogspot.com/
But the boards doesn’t look too yellow to me, maybe just use some tint like they say. I wonder how susceptible to UV it is…
That’s awesome, I’m still thinking about how beefy that fiberglass looked, 22oz or so he said
Friend of mine contacted entropy for more info. They said the video was misleading and that their epoxy resin is not eatable. It's a certain (not sure how much) percentage that exists out of bio degradable stuff (not sure what)
Hope this is helpfull
WTF?!
Hey guys!
We have been working with Entropy for a long time.
When I saw the vid, I was pretty sure that it was absolutely ridiculous…so I called Ray
THE RESIN IS NOT EDIBLE!!!
It is arguably the “greenest” epoxy resin on the market…but the stuff that guy says is simply retarded.
The Entropy guys are trying to get the video taken down or figure out what kind of disclaimer they now need to include.
If you have any questions, you should contact Entropy.
Feel free to ask me as well. I’ll be glad to give you the facts…without the hype.
" Soylent Green is made out of people"!!!!!!!!!
Other stuff on their website mentions that the resin is 75% bio-derived, so that means that its still 25% petro!
Its a step in the right direction at least, good on them.
Hi Todd,
What are your thoughts on the resin? Have you tried any other bioresins? If so, how does it compare?
And any idea when are they gonna start selling it to the public?
Cheers
So does that mean that dude has a heap of hardened pine resin in his gut?
Good marketing buzz, whether intentional or not …
I contacted Entropy a few days ago about availability of the resin and pricing: here is the info.
Excerpt from their email:
We
sell resin in 1.5gal and 3 gal kits. We have several formulations for
ambient cure applications like surfboards. One that is water clear but
has a has a lower bio-content and one that has a bit of a yellow tint
but has a bio-content > 50%. I attached the Technical Data Sheets
for both systems here. They both work similar to Resin Research, just a
bit slower in terms of cure time. We have a laminating tips sheet that
we send with all orders but if you are proficient with Resin Research
you shouldn’t have any issues with our resins.
The 100/1000 system runs $120.30 and the 101/1200 system is $116.25 in the 1.5gal kit size. This doesn’t include shipping.
…I’m also attaching the product info list for their Surf Sap surf-oriented resin. Sorry about it’s mangled format, for some reason sways wouldn’t accept the pdf file (too big) and the text-version I made with Adobe Reader is way less readable. Looks like good stuff; If anyone uses it, please report on how it goes!
Hi All,
This is Rey Banatao, from Entropy Research Labs…the guys behind Entropy Surfboards & now, Resins. Just to re-iterate, the bio-epoxy resin is NOT EDIBLE. We just posted a note under the You Tube video stating the same. We’ve also asked Signal Snowboards to take the video down for obvious reasons, and they confirmed with us that they will do so. They are actually good guys who’ve been building snowboards for a long time, and Daniel has a good sense of humor. I give them credit for doing what they do in Huntington Beach, CA. while the rest of the industry has been fleeing to Asian manufacturers for the past decade. But the video was misleading, and we could not take the risk, no matter how funny it was. Thanks Todd for clarifying with people on this thread.
As for the resin, we are making it available to the general public for resale. It’s been a long time in the works, as there are many hoops one has to jump through to start a chemical company, bio-derived or not. We’ve been trying to remain under wraps until we had our surf resin product dialed, but the video thrust us out there.
Long story short, we came up with this formulation a couple years ago due to the lack of an easy to work with, partially or wholly bio-derived resin. It’s taken us this long to get here for the surfboard / wet-layup application because surfboards are probably one of the hardest applications to engineer around. Clarity, color, viscosity, cure-time, etc. We’ve been holding back from any press or selling the past couple years so that we could dial in the resin. For heat-cure molded compression applications (like snowboards) the resin works great. And that’s the 75% bio-based version we mention on the website, and that Signal uses. It is less allergenic that traditional epoxy, in large part to the bio-content of the resin. We’ve made surfboards with it, but it’s a real pain in a production glass shop. For the home surfboard builder, I think it works just fine, so long as you are willing to have slow cure times, yellow color, and a high elongation (very flexible) resin. It works best over wood or comp-sands.
For traditional surfboards we’ve come up with 2 versions. One is 55% based on waste pine and vegetable oils from the pulp and bio-fuels processing industry. It is still partially derived on petro based chemicals, because that’s the best we can do for now. It is yellow, and will yellow. Think tree sap. We’ve tried to find the right balance between strength, stiffness, workability, and sustainability.
The other resin is more of a “production” type of resin made for the industry. It’s optimized for color and clarity, as well as workability. But we’ve had to cut on the bio considerably to 33%, so that it would be something that the “industry” could use.
These are the details I can give for now. But we are making it available to the public very soon.
Thanks,
Rey Banatao
Entropy Research Labs
i’ve used it…look at the board w/o the center fin in it(boattail bullet thread)…it does yellow,but it’s super tough.
the board pictured in the thread mentioned was lammed in entropy and the hotcoat is polyester.
herb
Herb- That must be the board Wyatt laminated? It never ceases to amaze me how resourceful Sway folks are. We hadn’t even released the resin for resale and already Sway boards were lammed with it! 
That was a slightly older version of the resin, and it’s only gotten better since then in terms of workability and mechanicals.
Wanted to also give the official heads up that we are now making the resins available for sale on our website:
https://www.entropysports.com/store/category/Epoxy+Kits
If you’re interested in trying it out, we sell as little as 3 qt. kits, enough to build 1 shortboard (or more). For surfboards I would suggest the Super Sap 100/1000 system for those wanting to maximize sustainability (@ 55% reclaimed/bio-based) or the Surf Sap 101/1200 system for those wanting the lowest color and best clarity (@ 33% reclaimed/bio-based). The Surf Sap system can be polished to a high gloss finish too. (see linked pic)
They both have excellent adhesion and high elongation, which make them pretty tough resins. I glassed a board for Danny Hess over a year ago and he’s given some great feedback that we’ll be posting on the resins site hopefully soon.
In the meantime, feel free to hit me up with any questions.
Rey
Entropy Sports / Resins