Build #3

Hey guys,

it’s been awhile, but I fixed the wavey outline of my fish (#2) and will move to board #3

This will be a board for good waves/barrels, that might also work in smaller waves. Kinda the stuff you’d find in France in autumn. 6’ x 20.5 x 2.75 are the intended dimensions at the moment. I was thinking a little fuller nose (fishy), wide point forward, nice pulled in (round) pintail, maybe wings. Don’t know if I’m quite there yet to build wings, especially when it comes to glassing though. 

Might build this one as a twinnie. Don’t know where this comes from, I just have a feeling it might work. We’ll see though. 

One point I am kinda unsure is how far I should put the wide point forward. I found dims for a 5’ 6" hypto (which my board will resemble in a way) and its wide point was 3.5 forward. would 4 be overkill for me or should I go even further?

oh and btw, some of you suggested I better reinforce my shaping stands. Turned out, it was indeed a rather wobbly business. 

 

shaping rack looks solid!

I’m a fan of wide point middle

It is indeed rock solid. Solid pine, thing weighs a ton. 

About my middle point forward question, I’m kinda set about it being not center, as the board will have a fuller nose and that (rounded-) pintail. Does 4’’ forward on a 6’ board sound about right?

Not to me :slight_smile:

its your board, put the wide point wherever you want it.  I lived through the era when wide point was forward on every board I owned, maybe that’s why I like the look of wide point middle boards.

Haha ok, thanks anyway huck. 

I won’t be able to start before middle of next week, I’ll give it some more thought then.

I draw the board to scale using graph paper before shaping, that way I can determine stuff like that ahead of time.  BTW you can have a fuller nose and pulled in tail with a wide point middle board.

Okay, after Huck’s comments I did a little bit of thinking and a little bit more of looking at boards and came up with this. At first I was afraid to take away so much foam in the nose/tail, but I think the overall foil turned out nicely. I’ll take rocker shots later.

As with the other 2, I’ll finish this one today. I still need to make up my mind though as to whether I want this to be a twin or a quad. I found a template for NPJ’s quartet fins. We’ll see.

But I kinda guess I should know that before shaping any bottom contours into this one. Hm.

 

Dear fellow swaylockians. During dinner I was pondering what bottom contour shall be given to this one. While munching my way through some salmon and potato salad, the idea popped into my head that the nose should receive a belly, followed by a concave, that turns into a double concave and ends in a slight vee where the fins are. 

Happy with my decision and well fed I returned to my garage to put my thoughts into action.

Fool that I am, if course a newbie like me won’t put that kind of bottom on a board in a couple of minutes. In fact, I spent all night working on that and I might need tomorrow AM as well. 

Well, so be it. Glassing postponed one day. Was freaking cold today anyway.

The board looks good.  I enjoy following the creative process documented in threads like this, thanks for sharing, looking forward to the next steps.

Thanks Huck, I don’t know where I’d be without this forum, so sharing some pics of the process is the least I can do I guess. 

While shaping the bottom I kinda tore little beads out of the foam here and there, but I filled those with a mix of epoxy/microballoons and now it is ready for glassing. In one of my other build-threads I mentionend my little mishap of ordering not enough cloth, so I foiled some fins in the meantime. I opted for the NPJ quartet template. 

Do you guys have any recommendation as to fin placement/toe in/cant? Tail width is 15.75. 

Here’s a couple notes from my archives, other than the first pic they are taken from the internet, hopefully helpful to you. The first pic is the layout I used on my 6-7 stubbie, I’m no expert so take it with a grain of salt.  Have only had the board out a few times, so far so good.



Thanks a lot Huck for that comprehensive info! 

I glassed the deck of #3 today and put my fin marks as follows:

  • front fins: 1’’ from rail, 11’’ from tail, 6 degree cant

  • rear fins: 6 7/8’’ apart, 5 1/16 from tail, 2.5 degree cant

Hope that sounds halfway reasonable. I’ll install the fins on my 3 boards tomorrow AM, the leash loops in the PM and hopefully start the fill coat on wednesday. 

I’ll not repeat the question from my 2 other builds haha. What I learned though (apart from a 1000 other things): I thought it might be a good idea to go through each step with each boad instead of builing one after the other from beginning to end. Might have been the better option though. 

Oh and the loop thingy turned out ok I guess. Has a bluish hue to it though. 


Hey guys, I went ahead and sanded this one to apply a second, thinner fillcoat. While doing so, I saw this. Do I have to worry? I did bump this board while moving it around (my garage is not too spacey, handling three boards is not always so easy in there). Is this a delamination? Do I have to think about fixing it before it even saw water? Or purely cosmetic?

Looks suspiciously like a dry spot has it bubbled up a bit?
Be good idea/to fix it. Quartet set up looks fun.
Wings are not really that hard to glass give it a go.

Thanks tommorth.

No bubbling up as of yet. So regular repair procedure? Cut out, 2 glass patches, epoxy over it, sand flush?

Hey guys, I’ll just Post in this one thread as Not to swamp the Forum (again…).

I’ve been on the road now a couple weeks and long Story short: my boards work, yay! Well kinda. The major thing i could have done differently (and will do differently with my next builds…) is go significantly thinner, especially in the nose and tail area.

I could Test my boards now in all Kinds of conditions, and they pretty mich do what I intended them to do and Theaterform incorporated in their design.

I have a couple more weeks of roadtrip ahead of me, so i hope to gain some more ideas for the boards i’ll be Building over Christmas. Already got a Ton of ideas in my Head.

And of Course last but not least: thanks to everybody that put up with all the questions i had. And wrecklessly posted, for that matter…