Building carbon paddle shafts

 

Carbon fiber shafts with bends are typically made in female moulds.  Not exactly “back yarder” friendly even if you watch that video you posted.  If you pay attention to what he’s got going on in that video you will see he’s got a significant investment going.  Vacuume bag and heated moulds.  Good luck and lose the attitude.  More flies with honey than vinegar.  

 

Below is a picture that might help get the wheels of thought going as to how carbon fiber tubes with bends are created.

 

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BB - Don’t be a troll dude, I’m not “blaming” anyone for anything as a matter of fact - a couple people on here have posted some pretty good info. Take a clear look at what I said again. I’m not looking for people to chime in and say “just buy it dude” - I’m looking for info from people who have done it on how they did it… because, if you paid attention at all, you would realize I said this is for a prototype. Once we’re on a production run the shafts will be purchased but it isn’t the shaft that we’re designing, it’s the blade. The shaft is completely secondary for the purposes of the prototype as this in all likelyhood won’t get used as an actual paddle. 

Seriously dude, what’s with your attitude?

 

And how does the video being 10 years old matter whatsoever? The technique is still valid and the method is pretty much exactly what I was trying to determine was viable. 

 

Seriously, I made it clear at the onset of the thread. If you don’t have something productive to contribute, I don’t really want your contribution. I would rather the thread go empty and unanswered than to be diluted with supid comments like “Just go buy it, it’s easier” - Maybe next time you think about shaping your own surfboard you should just not bother and buy it instead, because it’s easier right?

 

Oh and on a side note: I’m pretty certain I never once said this had anything to do with SUPs. These are for whitewater.

 

Thanks dude, super helpful actually - when you were making your fittings and having the issue with clearance, did you ever think about using pressure fittings? You know, like the ones that expand as you tighten them? I was kinda thinking the right diameter fitting would maybe solve that “wobble” issue for the purposes of dialing in our design. Like I said, this isn’t going to be used as an actual paddle, just something to show the buyer and then use as a reference piece to have the shafts professionally fabricated (We’re most likely going to have a bend in the shaft somewhere so that’s a hard one to find pre-fabricated to a shape we like).

Mako - Go re-read what I posted to you with a little less emotion this time. I was never having an attitude, I was showing annoyance at the fact that I came to a site of DIY board builders looking for advice on an effective DIY method at making tubes for prototyping purposes and was instead met with trolling pessimism.

Now right there, you posted a photo showing an example of the exact thing that I was trying to get from someone. Yet, rather than simply lead with that, you jumped on the “just buy it” train, even though in the post before I very clearly said I’m not looking for people to tell me “just buy it” - all I did was to clarify.

 

Seriously, if your contribution to a thread is simply going to be “just buy it” or “we only talk about surfboards here” or “do the research yourself” then why even bother to contribute in the first place? That makes you the one with an attitude. Maybe next time lead with the helpful information rather than the judgmental and condescending “let me google that for you” - just a thought.

As for the “significant investment” of a vaccum bag and heated molds - I would think it’s assumed if I’m talking about carbon paddle building that I’m already putting the investment into the vac bag setup (for so much more than just paddle making) - and the “heated molds” most people use are little more than wooden boxes with hardware store heat shield panels and a few 100 watt lightbulbs. I think that’s right in line with “DIY” 

do you make your own resin?fiberglass?foam?tints?colors?fin boxes?leash plugs?sand paper?planer? Quit whinning and farking build it. I spent 2005-2007 trying different ways of doing it and failed. Don’t recall mentioning is one time on this site. But then, I am getting older and realize that affirmation from others on a web sit isn’t the warm and fuzzy I need to be satisfied.  You are unteachable in my opinion with your disrespect and attitude. How to make a $125 carbon fiber paddle for $1500.  And for those reasons I am out.

 

Respect is something that’s deserved because you earned it not owed because you feel entitled to it… you, my sadly irritable friend, have demonstrated no reason for deserving any form of respect from me. 

 

It’s just too bad Sways got rid of the “block” feature and I’m forced to tolerate trolls like you

 

Oh, and just in case you weren’t aware - telling someone “go buy it” isn’t “teaching” anything other than to teach me that you have nothing of worth to contribute.

OkeeeeDokeee.  Have a nice day. 

Shushka , if you google “carbon fibre tubing” , you will get aprox 3, 230,000, leads to check out…the main drawback with using carbon tubing for a paddle shaft , is that it is round…and a good shaft needs to be oval shaped , so you can have a comfortable grip , and it won’t twist so easy when used…I have an SUP paddle to make for a new board , and I intend to use round carbon tube , encased inside an oval shaped light wooden outer shell…what I haven’t sorted yet is method of attachment between shaft and paddle… maybe I’ll post some pics after I make it…use your imagination…may the force be with you.

shooska lives on…

…ambrose…

swaylocks drop out

after 4,000+ posts

shooshk was my

encouragement

to do the steps.

white water  ing

is just like surfing.

but the mountains

are above 

the waterline.

go shooskie

you da man.

all the rest of these guys are kooks.

my best to the beach by the river

when the snow has melted.

 

I like the “wooden shell” idea - are you planning on making it adjustable?

 

One of the things I was considering for marrying the shaft and paddle based on some of the stuff I saw him do with the carbon sleeve was: You could epoxy the shaft to the blade at the desired angle, then have the sleeve sungged over the carbon tube and stretched out over part of the blade like a sock (just the bottom portion, a few inches of the blade and a few inches of the handle). Depending on the weight of the cloth the sleeve is made of you could just vac-bag that down prior to bagging any clear glass over the carbon.

Just turning gears

Ambroooseeser

Will you never learn

to stop typing in absurd

page breaks that make no sense

as if you’re some

kind of poet - yet all you do is

condescend and rar

ely provide useful information.

 

That’s twice in the same thread that you’ve taken shots at those greater than yourself.

BB30 and Ambrose are both better board builders with history of posting actual helpful info based on years of experience doing what they do.

Earlier on weren’t you talking about respect? You have none and you get none.

The old adage comes to mind:

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

But, I think that wisdom is probably lost on you.

Chrisp - you don’t know my history with Ambrose - well, actually you would if you went back through the threads and looked at everything I’ve posted that he’s responded too. He was very disrepectful to me in the past, and has been to many others. I could care less how “great” someone is if they feel they’re above helping those who ask for it. It’s pretty simple dude - when someone asks a question and you don’t know the answer to it… what reason could you possibly have for chiming in anyways to say “just buy it, it’s easier” other than condescension? 

 

Like I said… I would rather the thread go un-answered than to have people give me a bunch of non-answers about how I shouldn’t bother doing what I’m setting out to do. That’s not for you to decide. 

As for you, personally - you have contributed ZERO to this thread other than to pass judgment on me. So I’ll extend the same thing to you that I’ve extended to everyone else: if you don’t have an answer to my question, I really don’t care what you have to say.

This is why I meet those responses with frustration - because you guys completely bastardize a thread that could otherwise have information people would find useful, and is instead devolved into bickering and insults and people saying “don’t bother, go buy it”

Fine, you get the last word.