candy apple red pigment

Hey, I would like to lam a board with a deep sort of candy apple red pigment.  I have tried mixing in a little black to my crayon red pigment but all I get is a brick type red, or even brown. 

So before I screw around all day trying different pigments and ratios, can anyone tell me what colors will help me get that deep scarlet color I am seeking?

I have red, black, white and blue pigments on hand. 

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Hey, I would like to lam a board with a deep sort of candy apple red pigment.  I have tried mixing in a little black to my crayon red pigment but all I get is a brick type red, or even brown. 

So before I screw around all day trying different pigments and ratios, can anyone tell me what colors will help me get that deep scarlet color I am seeking?

I have red, black, white and blue pigments on hand. 

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candy apple red would mean red, and good amounts, maybe a little yellow [which you dont have]

maybe your red pigment just sucks? if it turns brown, well... it aint too red then get a good pigment, you can use painting powders, they come in different uv stabilities, add lots though

 

Whenever you add one color to another it dulls it a bit with pigments.  The old candy apple red hasn’t been around for awhile.  Check with your supplier and see what he has available.  Good luck.

Candy apple red is a red tint over silver or gold base

 

May I suggest you do that to achieve that,,,, no shortcuts

I think I want to try doing a candy color

you know any tint will be considered a candy color when applied over silver of gold

Kensurf you nailed it.  Tint over a metallic finish would give the effect I have in mind.

OK, so I’m not really prepared to do that.  So I how I can deepen the red color of my pigment?

are you using pigments or tints

if tints ,,, just add more tint maybe a drop of black, blue, green?????

if pigment maybe some magenta,,,,, I realy am not sure

 

Experament with small amounts first

"candy apple", is a term used to describe a type of refraction in the paint job.

it came from the hotrodders and cycle freaks back in the days.

either:

spray the blank silver or gold(silver works best),(and as chrome as you can get it).

or

flow coat the blank in silver pigmented lam.

then  lam w/ red or green,blue.........etc.,tints.\

 

that's tints not pigments.................eg.

pigment is a base opague.......non-see-thru.......example,white and black are base opague's.

tint is color w/o an opague base,or in other words ,clear.

herb

I like the idea of a red tint over a metallic.  Still until the mid-eighties you could buy off the shelf an opaque pigment called “candy apple” which was deeper than the reds of today. Semantics maybe, that’s what they called it.  Probably on somebody’s shelf somewhere.  Call up Surf Supply in Oceanside and ask them, or better yet Chrystaliner in Costa Mesa it still may be on their shelf.

rat,

  actually you are correct in that candy apple red tint is deeper or richer in color,and that many industries use ,"candy apple"  to describe a type of red or green.

when you put a standard fire engine red tint over a silver base you get a pinky-red.

when you shoot fire engine red over gold you get a orangey-red.

but apply a blood red tint over silver and you got candy apple.............that's the formula.

herb

Wow!  You guys are awesome.  Lots of info.

That deeper, blood red color is really what I want.  A true “candy apple red” will have to wait.  For now, after some more experimenting, I very scientifically determined that mostly red pigment with a teeny tiny bit of blue seems to work.  I would say it’s around 5% blue. 

I’d love to see some boards with a true “candied” finish and hear about their methods though.

Thanks for all the help.

I would suggest contacting Fiberglass Hawaii and see what they have available. They seem to have more of a selection than most suppliers I use.