Carbon railed, Stringerless, EPS, epoxy glassed 6'1 18 3/8 2 5/16

Hi Guys, I’m about to shape a stringerless EPS board with a parabolic glue line, and glassed with a single layer of epoxy glass, with carbon rails. for carbon fiber rails and epoxy glass, would you guys recommend doing the rails first or the rails after laminating the whole board.

Thanks a lot, and I will post lots of photos during and when completed.

Cheers guys

As I put balsa skins on mine, I do the CF first and don’t care about the edge appearance as it is buried under the wood.  If you do it first, then you will either cutlap the CF or deal with a black speckled mess if you fair the lap on the foam.  Wear your mask when you sand it, regardless if you do it first or last.  Maybe you do a couple of test pieces to see which method you like.

i would laminate the carbon first so you have glass over it when you sand so you wont sand into the carbon.

if you put it on after the glass, then a cutlap may be easier but you would most likely wind up sanding into it.....

I would do it all in one hit ,make some marks for the carbon to follow , brush on some epoxy lay the carbon on ,wet it out with more epoxy ,lay you glass on the bottom trim and wet it out and work the carbon at the sane time .flip it over do the top ,let dry ,lap sand and any lumps or bumps from the carbon ,then lay another 4 ozs  on the deck ,with this methord leave the the nose open ,close it off with the second layer on the deck .the reasion i leave it open is that some blanks gas,when drying ,if you seal it all in you will get a build up of air somwhear on the board so let it breath for the first time ,you will have less lap sanding ,less carbon dust ,and a cleaner stronger  lap .

do you guys reckon that having a parabolic glue line and carbon rails would also be complimented by having deck channels (grab rails)?

Cheers

shee,you people are haed! I love ideas.Is granted doing it once come stronger(if you dont cut any layer on sanding,if you cut it ,better  not cut the complete one ,mean the normal glass fiber coat) the carbom is there for reforcing, alone will do shit.So if you not so skill better do it twice,carbon on top.It will be easier,stronger and lighter.When doing it this way is very important less time possible between layers        don`t take it wrong,have fun and keep on surfing...mean on resin.

Great, that makes sense. Thanks for the feedback everyone. About the Deck channels. What do you think?

About deck channels only know a curve surface is allways stronger than a flat one.I would only use it if guessing all others components weren`t strong enougth because you are losing flexability,for me one of the most important things on a board.Flex is the live of the board,it makes it react in a positive way and not making you feel you surfing on a piece of a tree.                                   Go for it!

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About deck channels only know a curve surface is allways stronger than a flat one.I would only use it if guessing all others components weren`t strong enougth because you are losing flexability,for me one of the most important things on a board.Flex is the live of the board,it makes it react in a positive way and not making you feel you surfing on a piece of a tree.                                   Go for it!

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Don't want to sound harsh however flex, flex, flex, flex? I am so amazed by everyone who has tunnel vision concerning this subject. There are so many other aspects that are not even mentioned.

I realize that there is not anyone element that makes a board magic. FLEX, FLEX, FLEX? Do you really think that's the secrete to making a magic stick? 

 

 

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only said ``one of the most``.meaning don`t want a board lasting for ever but a board surfing good.I sacrifice strength for:good flex,good thickness,good weight... Of course there are limits,and the one diling better with this limits is making the better boards.the same way be ready for each option because is a two face coin, the good and bad of each.                               keep on `harshing`,

Cascais, Portugal I've been to. Great food!

 

Let's take three elements of structual board design to a level of measurement:

Elastisity; Tenacity, Resilency, Damping the total value of the 4 should be 100%

How you distribute those values is key to finding the magic.

It's blending the elements using the correct reaction of each function.

Formula is the term we are looking for.

To make the target product we need to include all the functional traits and not just concentrate on one asspect.

SD

No doubt!    (hope this is inglish) ...and obrigado.