Hey Steve, good looking turn is’nt it. Neal told me about it, said it looks like there’s a wave coming of the fin , his words. I had’nt seen it till yesterday morning , I was with Neal snr at Milchy’s shed, we punched in Np and two shots of Snr came up first, classic. Those two guys are total gentlemen and both great surfers. Jnr is still rated the best tube rider in this area, world champs, the lot and on his backhand. The board is [abt] 6’0"-19 1/2" little stub thing, flattish rocker, pretty round, nose n tail. Neal is abt 85 kgs, pretty big guy. The fins are a 2/ 1 setup, the sides pretty normal thruster size, it’s the back one we designed together, about 6 1/2" high, fully winged, not much like the 3d. Neal and Wayne Dean, with Andrew Kidman recently went to New Zealand for two weeks and made a movie, they scored big time in the wave department and had the first fin, when they came back, they all had said, that’s it, good as it gets, their words, and you don’t get Deany saying too much. Deany was riding Neal’s board, 6’0" in 8’ waves and he’s abt 55 and not small. Neal’s great because unlike just good surfers, he’s designing as well and he surfs everyday. He comes in and tells me exactly what’s happening, with this little foil here, that slight change in angle, a dream to work with. Bruce Lee said to me a while ago, if you’re in the water with Neal, you’re in the best surf around here that day, he lives it , breathes it. Those shots are only the carve of the week, no claims being made, anybody got problems with such a pure thing, has got way to much time on their hands. One more thing, why has everything had to have been done before, I had a surf on a new 6’2" yesterday that I made to try out Neal’s fin and decided to put plugs for a 4 finner. I ended up trying it as a 5 finner, with an old multi fin wing in the fin box and the other 4 winged as well, bloody hell the look of it, 5 wings, someone seen that before? It went good, real fast, surf was good 3’ snapper through to Greenmount, had the back 3 fins level, will move the centre one further back next time, had a ball and I have a ball mucking around with this stuff. cheers H.