I’m curious, as I’ don’t think I’ve ever seen video of someone riding a classic fish shape do a full roundhouse cutback on a smallish (head-high or under) wave…Does the flat bottom and double pin lend itself to the roundhouse, or is it pretty difficult. It’s by far my favorite thing to do on a shortboard, and I’m thinking of making myself a good fish, one that actually works this time. My first outline sucked balls. (Thanks to all the local guys that made me fell ok about it at the time though!).
oh you can do it alright and you’ll never want to stop either. when you hit the foam ball you pivot right around on the inside fin/pin and take off on another speed run from there.
Perfect…That’s what I wanted to hear. Thanks. Off to Mitch’s!
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I’m curious, as I’ don’t think I’ve ever seen video of someone riding a classic fish shape do a full roundhouse cutback on a smallish (head-high or under) wave…Does the flat bottom and double pin lend itself to the roundhouse, or is it pretty difficult. It’s by far my favorite thing to do on a shortboard, and I’m thinking of making myself a good fish, one that actually works this time. My first outline sucked balls. (Thanks to all the local guys that made me fell ok about it at the time though!).
I said it on another thread, but get THIS…
fast forward to ‘the fryed fish experiment’ , then…
hit SLOW motion / freeze frame…you’ll see the master at work, shot from the water AND land.
Watch at least 50 times, fall asleep at night with that vision burning the insides of your eyelids and mind, visualising yourself performing the same manouevre…
failling that , get yourself a wide concaved 80s deck , find yourself a nice bowl somewhere , and skate… and skate… and skate, till you get that move DOWN ,brother !!
ben
I’ve seen the flick many times…Awesome. And I have “the move” down pat, been doing it forever on “standard” shortboards, but my question was “with the wide double-pin and flat bottom, is the Fish condusive(sp?) to roundhouse cutbacks in head high and under type waves?”…But yeah, the segment of TC at the Mysto spot in that flick is unreal…
Another vote for the fish roundhouses…never done one on a thruster
My traditional fish does them fine, alittle slidy on the inside on the turn, but thats half the fun.
I heard the quads and Carnard work a little better, but i dont know yet because Dr.Pavel is yet to finish mine
There is some really nice video footage at www.zippifish.com of Michael Zippi-shaped fish in action at Restaurants, Fiji and elsewhere.
Goto: www.kanegarden.com and look at their news/events section. They have some
really good online video of their guys killing it on fishes. From ripping 1-2 ft Malibu
to bigger surf in Mexico. Plenty of round houses to be had.
- Wayne
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I’ve seen the flick many times…Awesome. And I have “the move” down pat, been doing it forever on “standard” shortboards, but my question was “with the wide double-pin and flat bottom, is the Fish condusive(sp?) to roundhouse cutbacks in head high and under type waves?”… You’ve watched the video ?? Okay, so that’s EXACTLY the type of bord Tom is riding in ‘Searching For Tom Curren’. Why I mentioned that video in the first place… The Skip Frye fish. At small J-bay [ “head high and under”…exactly the type of waves you asked about in your question]. Unless the american copy doesn’t have that segment in it, perhaps ? [I sure HOPE it does…THAT’S the highlight of the whole video, to me, I prefer it to the fireball “fish” stuff in that big right hander in Indo…that’s not a ‘classic fish’, just a thruster !] On the Skip Frye fish in ‘searching for Tom Curren’, Tom does two or three of those forehand roundhouse cutties you ask about. Absolutely flawlessly. As Tom does. The double pin and flat bottom , on that Frye at least, (and under Tom Curren’s feet, anyway!] CERTAINLY looks conducive to that move. The case COULD be argued though I guess, that in ‘beyond the boundaries’, he also rode a 1969 rick twinfin kneeboard and got air, so… know what I’m saying ? There’s probably a good chance of you pulling off roundhouse cutbacks on a fish [even in shifty beachbreaks ,for example] , if you already have the move down pat on a shortboard. It shouldn’t be a problem, then. Just adjusting to the outside keel leaving the water during the turn [as Tom’s does during the small j-bay water footage of his cuttie to roundhouse ] may be the main noticeable difference. But , that footage is a great teaching tool… in super slow motion / freeze frame mode, you’ll see what you want in terms of weight centred, hip and shoulder rotation… all the radical things Tom does so smoothly that we tend to miss them at ‘normal’ speed !! hope this helps… love to see the board and hear how you go with this, Tenover… your mal certainly looked nice, I’m sure you’ll do a good job on the fish, too ! ben [“chip”]
The Sprout – Thomas Campbell’s new film – has a beautiful shot of Rob M. high lining down a chest high wave in Costa Rica, and then compressing into a full rail roundhouse cuttie – a sweeter line than can be accomplished on a thruster I believe…