Classic longboard wooden fin?

Hi Guys

I’m just in the process of making a solid balsa longboard - real old school - 10’x24", rolled bottom, soft rails etc…

I’m planning on putting an old style fin on it to make it a little more authentic - I’ve never ridden one or even seen one in the flesh but I’ve seen the old D shaped fins in loads of classic images…

Heres where I need help - can anyone forward me a template for a classic fin?

I could also do with advice on thickness and where to foil it and finally where to position it.

I’m planning on making it out of strips of hardwood (european) that are not oily and need to glue it together before its glassed over and glassed on. I could do with advice on what glue to use to laminate the bits of timber together andf any particular timber I should avoid as well.

Hope you can help!

Cheers

12 deep x 9 depth, about a 1 1/2 rake. Set the fin about 2 inches from the tail. This way the rake of the fin is just about perpendicular to the tail, or a 1/2" smidge less. The finished thickness of the fin is 1/4 inch, so you can make it out of 1/8" wood, with 2 layers of 8 oz on each side. You can make the fins out of any kind of wood you want, but if you use oilly wood, Ipa, Mohagany, Teak etc, once you finish the fin you should give it an acetone bath, and before the tone drys, give it a coat of lam resin. If the stuff really soaks in, good. Hit it with another coat of lam resin. Once it kicks, Lam it with the glass. There are no foils on D rudder fins, just make sure you dont put a sharp leading edge. (D fins can kill small animals) the trailing edge is slightly foiled from about 2 inches in. Any glue will work, but the best is elmers or elmers wood glue…Any Alphic type glue.

-Jay

Hi Third,

Alot depends upon how authentic or “replica” you want to go and to what vintage you want. As you know the “D” type skegs were late 50s and early 60s and even up through mid 60s, though by then you saw more of the raked back and hatchet shapes (Weber Performer, Noll / da Cat, etc.). I’m with Resin on his comments regarding size, though the earlier ones were often only 8" or so deep (sometimes even less), and many were up to 3/4" thick (finished glass). Not much foiling done at the time as Resin stated, and the skegs were set way back on the tail. Many of the “D” types had no real rake and the back edge was planed right with the tail.

I can send you a trace off an early 60s Duke Kahanamoku board if you like (send a personal message). Food for thought: Check out Tom Wegener’s site and read his “articles on design” http://www.tomwegenersurfboards.com/index.htm Also, you can take a look at some of the skeg designs I’ve done at http://www.mccormickfinewoodworking.com/ (Wave Rider Collection). Hope that helps. Enjoy the ride!

Richard

Hey there Thirdshade,

here’s a pic of the fin on my Velzy pig. It is nearly identical to the ones

you can see on his balsas from the first Bruce Brown movie ca. 1957.

The base is 9"(wood)x8" tall(also wood) the glass at the edges ads

about 1/2". rake is about two inches, and the fin is set so it hangs over the tail by about 3/4".

Thickness with glass is 1/2", and there is a slight foil at the front and rear

to ease the transition from edge to side starting about 1/2" in from the edge

and only about 1/6-1/8" deep.

If the pic shows up, you could probably blow it up for a rough template.

Hope this helps.

The fins we put on the balsa boards at Velzy’s in the late 50s were made from 7/16 mahogany. We cut them out on the band saw, cut out most the meat around the edge on a special saw that Able Gomes made for Velzy and then finished shaping them with the disc sander. They were glassed on with two pieces of cloth and rope on each side. They had two nails in the bottom that held them upright while we glassing them. I don’t think they were quite as racked as the one in landlock’s attachment. May be alittle more rounded and 8 inches sounds right. They did over hang the tail block a little. Hope this helps

hi Landlocked !

here’s a shot my brother took of a mal he swapped for a slab [I think he meant the beer , rather than the kneeboard variety slab !]

The “D fin” on it is fibreglass , however …

bottom view

the deck view

While I’m on it , does anyone know of this one [or this person ?] …on the back of Simon’s photo it also said " Lindsay Hassett ‘pipeline model’ for the Melbourne Surf Shop " ?

cheers !

ben


http://www.classicbingsurfboards.com/pages/1/index.htm

Have a look at the above website. Bing made some classic timber fins.

The photo in the attatchment is a Bing fin also. It is from a board built in 1961.

platty.

Hi Chipfish,

That one huge fin. I think your brother made out if he only had to

trade a beer for that.

For Viejo,

When you glassed thin fins, did you actually attach them to the board

bare and then glass them?

Also I had been wondering how you guys kept them on to glass them

before hot glue guns. Now I know. Thanks.

Here you go Chipman, from Surfresearch, they want more info on this one

Pipeline Surfboards

Brendan Rose, Mornington Peninsula, Victoria reports February 2004…

a “Pipeline Surfboard” which was purchased in 1959 from the sports department owned by Lindsay Hassett , ex Australian cricket captain. Its about 9"6 , triple stringer with a “D” fin.

Futher information requested.

http://www.surfresearch.com.au/mp.html

what r u doing to that board in your icon mpeg?

Pick one that suits

  1. Racing to the next section to escape the wall of bricks falling down behind me…

  2. An ion generating machine capable of levitating, Chips and my newest invention from the shed…

  3. It’s an old board without a fin attached to a skateboard with occy straps…

option 4 …

board and cord abuse

We glassed and fill coated the deck first. The sander, Bob Cooper was the sander at that time a Velzy’s, sanded the overlap and then we laminated the bottom and put the fin on at the same time, pushing the nails down thru the wet cloth on the bottom. We wet the rope out on the bottom a few inch from the fin and pushed it into place with the brush after it was saturated and then put the fin cloth on. After it kicked off we filled the bottom and the fin. It has been a few years, but to the best of my recollection this is how it was done.

Thanks Viejo,

It definitely seems as though you would get a stronger

fin that way, not only with the nails, but a more integrated

glass job.