crossing over.....

[relax … it’s not an epoxy thread , or a cross-dressing thread !]

so , you who rode shortboards all the time ,

and now take a mal [“longboard”] out more often …

tell me please , can you remember …

what were the biggest adjustments you had to make ?

did your mates abandon you ?

did you suddenly get classified as one of the old , out of shape, can’t surf , and need a crutch to catch waves guys?

I ask , because it was really funny to see one of my mates take a step back when I told him “I’m making an epoxy glassed mal” [his expression was priceless !!]

cheers !

ben

…soon I will be walking the plank …

Lotsa friends laughed, until they see you surf your mal/funboard, then they say…same old same old…

It ain’t what board you ride, it’s how you ride the board that’s under you.

Some pretty famous shop owners saw me ride a Bic 7’9"er, laughed until they saw me catch a wave, then paddle over to say hi and wonder how that pig could go so fast from bottom turn to OTL just like a 6’4" shortboard.

Only surfing 15 days a year, I can’t paddle a 6’4" surfboard into many waves, while I still could surf not too different than I did 35 years ago on almost any surfboard.

Never could really surf a log, so that’s still out.

well… i’m never talking to you again… and the fake leopard skin wettie you ordered… forget about it. i’m gonna make you a pink one… ya big sissy… fairy… longboarder !

hey chip. don’t pay any attention to “overboard”… me and the “crew” at the old folks home are behind ya. you go girl ! I mean… ol man. Make sure you read up on the “geriatric surfers” thread. Lots of useful info for you there.

whatever dower… or is it “downer”… next thing you know chipfish will be riding a “booger board”

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what were the biggest adjustments you had to make ?

did your mates abandon you ?

did you suddenly get classified as one of the old , out of shape, can’t surf , and need a crutch to catch waves guys?

Well, I never went to a real long longboard…I went in that 8-8’6" territory and when I did that a lot of people couldn’t figure that out. Partly that was because of when I made those various leaps. I also made the change to get more waves, not by ripping others off with increased float but by riding boards that allowed me to go to less occupied areas and less contested arenas. That was long enough ago to probably be moot at this juncture; rigor mortis has set into this sport…longboard or shortboard or lame geek seems to be the advertising mindset foisted on the average beach monkey.

I caught way more flak for going to prone craft or bodysurfing, as that was somehow abandoning “real surfing” or something.

As for others reclassifying you as some form of geezer or cripple, you might as well get used to it - if you keep surfing long enough the ever-increasing peanut gallery will find some reason to dismiss you, valid or not.

As one of the old , out of shape, can’t surf, and need a crutch to catch waves guys who made the crossover from short to long and tried recently to go back to short, I can say the first direction is much easier.

Chip. I went the other way from mostly riding longboards to riding mostly shortboardish(Classic Fish or whatever ) usually under 7’. I only ride my longboard at the most 5 times a year. I am not all that fit and I am not a kid anymore but I am having more fun riding smaller boards than longboards

LeeDD (see pic) I road a 6’7" BIC in Barbados (the airline lost my boards) The Bic actually turned out to ride way better than I thought. I had fun on it. These days I am stoked to be riding anything. Cheers!

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well… i’m never talking to you again… and the fake leopard skin wettie you ordered… forget about it. i’m gonna make you a pink one… ya big sissy… fairy… longboarder !

haha classic chinga !!!

…do you realise that your current avatar [ ]

is , of course , your boyfriend Ross , on …

wait for it !..

the 11’ Mickey Munoz surftech "ultraglide’ !!!

…hahahahhh

is it true that when he’s not around you go have hours of fun on a big double ender ??

ben

“chinga dera” …african for “jiggy jig” / "rumpy pumpy " / “bonking” , etc …

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Some pretty famous shop owners saw me ride a Bic 7’9"er, laughed until they saw me catch a wave, then paddle over to say hi and wonder how that pig could go so fast from bottom turn to OTL just like a 6’4" shortboard.

Only surfing 15 days a year

I LOVE bics! they give such a superior shave to any other razor on the market. and as for there ball point pens… don’t get me started. seriously though i did enjoy the bic 10’ noserider i occasionally surf.



Stoked!

Chip and his new friends

[uggghhhh …that guy on the right could get arrested for going topless …puts pre-silicon kylie to shame !!!]

"… go the grey , go the grey "…

excuse me, while I work on my gut , and boobs , and the grey bleach …I’ll be with you in a few years ! [at least you got a head start in the hair department eh ben ?]

here’s one for ya matey … maybe you can use this sometime …

"my receeded hairline is really just a solar panel for the sex machine below "

ben

"what were the biggest adjustments you had to make ? "

I have 3 boards that I ride on a regular basis.

6’11" mini log (disc) waves under head high

7’2" speed egg. Great all around board. Better with a little So.Cal juice.

10’ Surftech wave hog summer crowd beater.

Surfing the log without a leash teaches board control. After hanging on to that super thick floating mal through the white wash you learn about holding on to your board. Don’t try to turn the log like the shorter boards. It’s takes a while to switch back and fourth. You can do it.

Don’t become a stick man…legs stiff, arms stright out ,no control.

With a log you have to get into the glide!

Oh wait , I hate long boarders! Go back to San Onofre you logger! (ha, Ha)

the biggest adjustment is learning to move your feet around, and waiting for the board to respond to weight changes…

I do it all the time…

But riding bigger boards 9’+ will make you paddle lazy so keep your time short.

The key is adjusting your timing and to remember to slow things down

when you ride shorties everything is in hyper mode from the get go you are constantly turning, carving trying to scoop out every ounce of speed off the tail. It’s easier if you switch back and forth from a fish or bonzer to a mal but you know it ain’t the same as tail skating off a hi-performance thruster or quad.

The “boys” out here that shortboard rip like Denton Salicido pretty much wiggle waggle the tail off the top as they drop in to loosen up the board and just wack it all around like any other “shortie”.

these guys surf or should I say rip the same short or long…

so you can wiggle waggle off the tail dropping in or angle in classically or take the drop and power off the bottom at a slight angle.

You can surf anyway, anyhow and with anything you want as long as you’re having fun doing it. That’s the golden rule… Once your buds see you’re taking it way too seriously then your in for it… Also a couple classic Dora of the tail board launches at the shorties dropping in will wake up alot of “hasslers in the line up”. People forget how it was just done in the day so sad…

Anyway I love shortboarding even at 50 and being 20-30 pounds overweight for my height… It’s the best work out I can ever get and takes my mind off the Mon-Fri hassles. Nothing like huffing and puffing out my 6’4" mandala to get the ol’ arms back in shape… And my bottomline to the longboarding animal crowd is don’t ever make a shortboarder go in and get a tanker, cause they will out paddle and out snake you every single time.

You can ride-em for fun doing all the poses (buffalo, allenwrench, quasimodo, walking backwards etc etc) or you can just smack the lip with all your might like you would do on any shortie and do the free fall dance with the white water in the lip.

Bert will like this…

But there is nothing more satisfying to me than to take my favorite 9’2"-10’0" and time a big bottom turn to launch into a throwing lip catching it midair on the bottom of your board to make a huge smacking sound and then successfully land the drop and come around the section to throw a huge spray with a roundhouse. Do that once and you will not only open alot of eyes in the lineup, but you’ll scare off all the hasslers and friends teasing you about giving in to the “darkside”… Of course you better know it’s the right wave or you’ll be paying the price… I love when Bonga or Rusty does this at Makaha or Alii…

never get stuck in one type of board one type of wave, there’s no fun and no surfing in that…

But then I’m just an old geezer(like you Chippy) who started in the late 60’s so what should I know. That “Surfing for Life” movie has me looking forward to alot of fun though…

heck - jumping to a longboard would’ve been nothing - I recently jumped on a Neumatic mat. Oh the laughter, the smirks, the “what,too fat to surf?”.

Funny thing is that I let one of my pals try my mat on a recent swell - and after he hooked some waves, was enjoying it so much he didn’t want to give it back.

Chip - I spent the first 14-15 years of my surfing life on 6-6.5’ equipment. 7 or 8 years ago I bought a longboard and haven’t looked back. I’m neither old nor out of shape, I just prefer the feeling.

As someone who did that same transition, I can tell you a few things about it.

First, don’t try to think of it as much the same sport at all. To paddle a short, you’re working like swimming with a life jacket on, to paddle a long, get it in trim & glide. Don’t duckdive, go around. Its a whole different thing and if you approach it too similarly in transition, you’ll be frustrated (no matter which direction you’re transitioning).

On the drop, you’re going to have to remember to shift your weight around. (I assume you won’t want to sit 20 yards outside and take 35 strokes to get in before it breaks like the beginner longboarders do.) Get forward enough on the baoard to get the nose dropping downhill, or you’ll push water and never get it to drop right. As you pop up, shift backwards, getting to your feet behind where you were lying to paddle. That keeps you from pearling and puts your feet over the fin for your bottom turn.

Do not try to rail turn it. Its not a snowboard, fer chrissake. Be over the fin & snap-pivot it around. Its big, but it’ll come.

Above all, repeat this mantra to yourself whenever you’re up: “be active - be active - be active - be active…” If you’re slowing down, take a couple steps forward; if you’re outrunning the wave, step back & cut back; if the wave’s weak, use that fin for drive by weaving some S turns…just don’t stand still and gape at your feet. :slight_smile:

I tried riding longboards about 10 years ago — the idea being to go long when small (ie the whole of the summer) and get the shortboard out when conditions were up to it … a good enough idea…

but

what happened was this… I took out the longboard for a long time… lots of small surf … then I took it out in bigger stuff…soon enough… without even realising it … a hormonal transformation took place… weight gain…even a desire to wear a moustache…

one day I dusted off the shortboard and discovered that longboarding had reduced my shortboarding level to that of a german on holiday in france having picked up a 6.0 x 18" for the first time…

the longboard had robbed me…

not everyone is susceptible…i’ve a friend who has no problems switching from long and back to short …i knowe others who met the same fate as myself

i have resolved…after a long time in rehab… not to do it again…

…until nature turns off the juice…

Be careful Ben…

---------------Before…

After…

The same guy ---- only took 2 weeks to happen…