Cut the shape first? Or plane the blank to thickness first.

This seems like a question I shouldnt even be asking after 5 boards but…

I have always believed that you took a blank, Planed off the crusty bits, trued it even, then laid down your template and cut out your shape.

Then  and only then did you start planing it to the desired thickness…

But, I have watched numerous shapers in “youtube” videos after truing up the blank, BEFORE cutting the template shape, plane the blank down to the basic thickness of the board.

Both tail and nose. Wouldn’t that make it hard to keep the blank true and the edges parallel?

Example: https://vimeo.com/118045384

 

It probably doesn’t matter, but I cut the template first. I do it this way because that is how I was mentored.

I find it easier to cut a non templated blank to thickness - more room on the sides to lessen screw-ups.

Next blank, which will proabably be another EPS blank, I do the plane to thickness first, maybe leaving a little on the tail for adjusting tail rocker.

We’ll see how it goes.  I have always done the templae first but I see some advantages with this method.  Less to cut through template wise and as stated more wiggle room.

 

its a lot easier to get a true shape if you plane rocker/ thickness first. BUT you need to already know the design you are shaping and the blank profile you are working with.

if its a new design or a new blank profile than it is hard to decide where to take out the thickness until you have the reference of having your outline cut. 

I rough cut the nose and tail close to the finished length then plane close to finished thickness before cutting the outline.  I’ve done it both ways but this is the way I now prefer.

For me it’s skin the blank, templet, thickness, rail bands, then sand.  When you think about it the sanding is part of the thickness process.

I’ve been cutting the outline first then I plane it down. I figure this avoids extra work of planning foam I don’t plan on using.

Jim Phillips’ video shows him planing the blank to get it “trued up” first then cutting the outline, so that would be the proper way to do it.

An important, and frequently overlooked part of the process, is to first level the shaping racks.     Then, and only then, you’ll be able level the blank, top and bottom.     After doing that, I would check overall thickness, do a light cleanup pass on the bottom, and proceed to lay out the template for the board.    After that, shape the surfboard you had in mind.    There are many paths to the top of that mountain.       This is the one I chose.

Length first, then thickness, then bands.  The main reason for this is the planer will have more support for cross-cutting at the nose and tail using the full width of the blank.  Makes things more even on each side since you’re starting the cut way outside of the outline.  A secondary reason is to establish your “cut” rocker and then match your outline to that.    Mark dots for the midddle, nose, tail along the rail since you’ll be cutting on the deck and bottom.  It’s absolutely necessary to level the racks like Bill said, and I like to have a level line on the wall from where you sight down the shape to check side to side eveness.

Should really not say anything.

But poster is seeking an answer.

I have done it both ways now

Of coarse the basics of a plan, level platform and lighting  .

At first it maybe easier “seeing” your plan with the outline cut out first…

But in time you’ll find roughing out your “plan” is better prior to template.

Check out Aipa’s U tube via FGH. 

Eh you need to see what you want first!

 

 

 

 

Me?

Rocker - outline - thickness - bottom contours - deck foil - rails

YMMV

Cool video. He measures rocker same way I do. It amazes me today to think what it would have been like to have these online video resources when I started out.

In addition to all the good stuff above, I’ve learned the hard (unfortunate) way to make sure my racks were the same distance apart as the glasser’s  - before I did this my boards never came back with the same rocker I shaped into them.

 

care to explain patrick?