the plain one was super difficult. the newer one with holes was better but still very difficult
I tried a hand lay-up with the nylon using epoxy on XPS. Laps were a friggen nightmare.
Seemed very thirsty even with sealing the blank. and I got quiet a few bubbles where the creases in the cloth were .
Daren
check the pic i posted early in this thread
is this the same as what your refering to
huie
did any one glass normal glass over the top of there MPV/nylon in there test?
and any team riders going to give it a hit?
Hey Guys,
I don’t think this is MPV. Yes, laps would be a drag, and I can’t imagine not veiling it w/regular cloth. The stuff we used as woven but stiff and slippery.
Yep, thats the stuff, except it had the perforations in it.
Daren
deadshaper its NIDA-CORE MATLINE that we are all testing
FD…yes, Huie pm’d me with the cover page about it…I’ll sit down and read the whole thing after football…is there a smaller mesh or ounce available…2 oz vs. 4 oz?
Let me know…thanks
I wish someone would put a name to this stuff.
did you use it
huie
Only tried it on a couple of small foam samples, one with rail shaped into it. Lapped fine, just frays a bit easily.
is thatv the one i had or the new one
huie
Wouldn’t have a clue.
The MPV of yesteryear also frayed if you hit it with sandpaper…that’s why we veiled it w/e glass over the top. But if you sanded thru to expose the MPV it frayed and we would had to cloth over or use some wet and dry to get it back down before gloss.
The Nida Core mat looks to be a different beast altogether. Honeycomb structure with mat interwoven top and bottom of the honeycomb…at least hat’s what their brochure info seems to indicate…they also have foams and all kinds of different stuff.
I’m not after something that drinks up a bunch of resin and makes the board resin rich. That just makes the board brittle strong…like any resin rich glassjob that may initally feel hard on the thumb test, but fractures when damaged. Then again, my friend’s board that when flying off the car had fractures at impact but the foam wasn’t damaged…hmmmmmmmm.
This stuff sands pretty good, no fraying like aramid cloth and the like. But I think I am going to lay a 4oz glass over it anyway. From what Yorky said the board ends up a bit doughy.
I think relief cuts for the laps are the way to go.
I can also see it taking a bit of filler resin to fill all those perforations.
Maybe more suited to vacuuming or resin infusion systems.
Daren.
Entity…you’re probably spot on about the bagging approach…closed system molding is what the company website was implying or stating or whatever…I’d say if you’re hand laminationg you might wanyt to consider laying it up with some microspheres in with the resin. Then go over it with a hotcoat of micros…or you can just dry out the lam and go over it with microspheres (q-cell, etc.) to fill pores. This will make it strong while keeping it light. I’m suggesting this WITH at least 4 oz e-glass veiling over it.
Not sure why the material seems “doughy”…I wonder if nylon can be rated like urethane with durometers…I should think so.
So is the consensus that it is hard to wrap the rails?
Did anyone ever find out the name for this stuff? I took some to a industrial textile company and they told me it was polyester.
Deanbo…good initiative. The fervor is fading…people’s curiousity is waning…this thread is dying…“help me, help me pleeeeeze” said the man with the body of a fly…then someone got annoyed and grabbed the flyswatter…
he swallowed hard, realizing what coulda been might never be
So you never found the manufacturer I take it?
D…nope. That cow on your avatar reminds me of my dog. Shows how much “fixing” them works!
I gotta give you credit tho’…never seen a horney cow.