Does Future Fin Systems make a keel fin for fish? Or, how will regular fins work on a fish?

The glasser who has my fish is trying to encourage me NOT to use glass on fins, but will do them if I insist. Given that bit of info, does Future or Red X make a keel fin for fish?

If not, how will other types of fins work on a real fish?

Most likely I will press on with the glassons, of course.

Just curious. If someone makes removable keels I’d go with that for my convenience and the glasser’s.

Thanks

Me thinks the glasser just doesn’t rant to hassle with the glass on fins. Glass on fins are cheaper than fin systems and they take more time to install. Glass on fins on a nice classic fish look bitchin.

You could always have someone construct fcs keel fins that fit into the plugs. Not much harder than constructing plywood fins.

-Jay

I just thought of something. You have a point about FCS. That could be done, but a keel fin couldn’t be constructed for Futures because the Futures fins have to be put in at an angle in order to lock them in. I don’t know anything about red x except that I’ve seen the color red several times, and the letter X many times.

i can almost guarantee an fcs keelfin would snap off.

im not sure about futures, or red-x, but i know lokbox makes a keel type fin, liek the one on the CI fishes.

contact tom@daum, i bet he could figure a way to get you some custom fins fer red-x…

I remember seeing lokbox producing some nice looking keels on swaylocks a couple of months ago, their should be some info in the resources. I made my self some keels for my FCS plugs. They only lasted a month until the fins (carbon) ripped out both sets of plugs.

Cheers Joe

Futures Has Keels in production but they are not out yet, they do have a bigger twin fin, FCS…Blah…Red-X No keelfins Just big twins,

LOKBOX…DING DING DING, The removable keelfin Geniouses, They are doing the Keels for the fish craze for most manufacturers CI and others.

Removable templates now offered by Lokbox:

Channel island (pictured)

Kane garden

Moonlight/GH

G&S

Custom orders/templates available

Lokbox 760-757-3147

Rainbow fin co. 831-728-2998

Quote:

Removable templates now offered by Lokbox:

Channel island (pictured)

Kane garden

Moonlight/GH

G&S

Custom orders/templates available

Lokbox 760-757-3147

Rainbow fin co. 831-728-2998

I tried to inquire about trying out Lokbox but it seems Lokbox doesnt sell to the smaller backyard shapers though.

So what if you make the keel fins / fcs, and do 3 plugs lay out, your not going to rip them out if you set the plugs properly

Fairmont,

I found the future twin fins on a wide tail fish slipped around a bit and did not have the drive of the large keel fins. My fish with future twins, good in knee to chest high surf, not too steep. My fishes with wooden keels, knee to a couple of feet overhead, fast and hollow.I think it would be a mistake to put them on your fish. Plus, the wooden keels look bitchen. Mike

Side note: Sorry I missed you on your earlier trip up the coast. If you come back up north let me know and we’ll surf. mike

Even if you use FCS with 3 plugs they will most likely rip out, the system isnt very good at handling heavy loads especially by the tip. Thats pretty much why they discontinued the old longboard setup. Remember 6 plugs in a row? The force applied to the tip caused the plugs to roll out. I assume a big keel would cause the same problem.

what are some good keel fin dimensions for 6’6" fish? larger surfer…

Well, they glassed them in (the wood keel fins I brought to them), but the fins aren’t set like the original fish fins. They are almost parallel to the stringer, but turned in one eighth, and the glasser didn’t glass them 90 degrees, but slightly more. Will that make a huge difference, and if so, will it be negative or positive?

troy- email him, and i’m sure you can get setup! i believe its a vaccum jig, that comes with an extra thing to do longboard centerboxes or something. i think the whole setup runs like 150 or something?

Fairmont,

Your stoked. The thing will surf great. Mike

This is my fish. I rode it for the first time yesterday. While I would still like to have a Skip Fry fish someday I no longer desire one. This board is magic too; most fun I’ve had in a while.

The Lokbox picture above (orange/smoke) is my brother’s 6’6" fish, also from Roger Beal. This board is 5’10"

Lokbox,

Do you have any dimensions on the other available templates? The CI template doesn’t seem to have nearly the same amount of base as the classic fish fins. I didn’t see any fish templates on your website.

Thanks,

Nick

Nick, check back in a week or so and you will see some keels on the site. It’s being uppdated now. The CI template has less base to help the average surfer go rail to rail easier. Most of the other templates mentioned have more base and less height than the CI.

This is a more traditional type template-

I think the base on this one is around 8inches x 5 inch height.

Oh, well shit, lokbox. had I known you had a real keel fin in the works I would have jumped at it.

I don’t really like glassons due to my traveling. I travel a lot (Trestles, Windansea, and occasionally Oceanside) so I need those fin systems.

Okay, I’m kidding a bit, but I really would have gone with lokbox had I known a real keel fin was in the works.

As it is, the fins are glassed, and I pick it up tomorrow.

Thanks anyway.

About 50 bucks and a grinder, and it becomes a Lokbox board. lokbox@sbcglobal.net