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Similar to the message below: If you could rub a magic lanter and > apprentice with any shaper/designer who would it be and why? Damn! I fogot to add my own: Velzy, Mike Eaton, and Yater.
Similar to the message below: If you could rub a magic lanter and > apprentice with any shaper/designer who would it be and why? Ben Aipa. Why? He is very versatile and innovative. He can shape a retro 50/50 railed longboard down to a cutting egde potato chip and anything in between. He can still be seen testing out his shapes in some pretty real surf (still actively surfs the North Shore) at age 60. He is quite approachable and is stoked to talk surfboards when out in the line up.
Bob Simmons…Dempey Holder(rest his soul)spoke highly of Bob’s ingenuity,and his contrubutions to the “genesis” of the modern surfboard.Herb.
Ben Aipa. Why? He is very versatile and innovative. He can shape a retro > 50/50 railed longboard down to a cutting egde potato chip and anything in > between. He can still be seen testing out his shapes in some pretty real > surf (still actively surfs the North Shore) at age 60. He is quite > approachable and is stoked to talk surfboards when out in the line up.>>>>>>>>.Ben is way cool!He spent a day with my bro and I talking design at my shop in L.B.(mid-late 70S). Then we went back to his motel room in H.B. and he floated us some shirts,stickers,hats,and alotta ALOHA SPIRIT!!!Herb.
Similar to the message below: If you could rub a magic lanter and > apprentice with any shaper/designer who would it be and why? George Downing go figure
I’d like to go back to Hawaii - 300 years ago - and apprentice under a kumu kahuna. It would have been a thrill to go through all the ritual…the religious ceremony, felling the tree, and shaping the board with an adze and coral. Can you possibly imagine what it must’ve been like to have been so close to the earth to even FIGURE OUT that “walking on water” really IS possible?! (hey, you said “dream” apprenticeship, right?! that’s MY idea of a truly SWEET dream)!..T.
I’d like to go back to Hawaii - 300 years ago - and apprentice under a > kumu kahuna. It would have been a thrill to go through all the > ritual…the religious ceremony, felling the tree, and shaping the board > with an adze and coral. Can you possibly imagine what it must’ve been like > to have been so close to the earth to even FIGURE OUT that “walking > on water” really IS possible?! (hey, you said “dream” > apprenticeship, right?! that’s MY idea of a truly SWEET dream)!..T. Everytime I see a piece of craftsmanship that is dated of long ago, it gives me goosebumps. To think that they had only stone and coral, metal another hundred years away. I often hold my great grandfathers wooden planes and drawknives, then look at a perfectly built work that was done entirely by hand, no electric tools. When men were iron and the boards were wood.
Damn! I fogot to add my own: Velzy, Mike Eaton, and Yater. Velzy comes from the era where you hand shaped 8 to 10 longboards a day . . . for $9 per! According to the Hawk, “None of these young guys want to work that hard!” Pretty heavy dues don’t you think?
Velzy comes from the era where you hand shaped 8 to 10 longboards a day . > . . for $9 per! According to the Hawk, “None of these young guys want > to work that hard!” Pretty heavy dues don’t you think? Barry, The single most important question facing every potential apprentice (in any endeavor) throughout history has always been: how much are you willing to sacrifice in order to attain mastery of that which you think you believe in and love? The payment of those heavy dues, at any wage (and sometimes none), can often result in the development of unsurpassed discipline, skills, commitment and inspired knowledge that would not have been drawn forth and matured through any other means. I am personally convinced that the shortest distance between those two points in any person`s life is still by the longest route.
Barry,>>> The single most important question facing every potential apprentice (in > any endeavor) throughout history has always been: how much are you willing > to sacrifice in order to attain mastery of that which you think you > believe in and love?>>> The payment of those heavy dues, at any wage (and sometimes none), can > often result in the development of unsurpassed discipline, skills, > commitment and inspired knowledge that would not have been drawn forth and > matured through any other means.>>> I am personally convinced that the shortest distance between those two > points in any person`s life is still by the longest route. Wow, nicely put… I’m already into a career that I beleive in but wouldn’t say I love. Anyway, I’m new to surfing (~1.5 yrs) and newer to board repair although I’m pretty psyched on both. I’m already volunteering to repair friend’s boards and I wouldn’t be surprised if I found myself making a board one of these days. Re: apprenticeships - didn’t know they exhisted until this thread but I’d love to come by a full-fledged shop a see what goes on - that would be huge. Any ideas? I live in the SF Bay area.
Wow, nicely put…>>> I’m already into a career that I beleive in but wouldn’t say I love. > Anyway, I’m new to surfing (~1.5 yrs) and newer to board repair although > I’m pretty psyched on both. I’m already volunteering to repair friend’s > boards and I wouldn’t be surprised if I found myself making a board one of > these days.>>> Re: apprenticeships - didn’t know they exhisted until this thread but I’d > love to come by a full-fledged shop a see what goes on - that would be > huge. Any ideas? I live in the SF Bay area. George, By “apprenticeship” I simply meant, “the time served as a pupil by one who is trying to learn the skills and knowledge of a trade”, through WHATEVER means necessary. Sadly, traditional appreticeships in most fields have become a thing of the past. But, what will never change for many people is the heartfelt desire to learn and grow… if one is passionately determined to seek a certain course, it is very likely that success and satisfaction await… fortune favors the brave. The world would be a much better place if more people actually enjoyed what they`re doing for their daily bread.
i served in an apprenticeship from the time i was 11, not in a surfboard factory…but in my dad’s cabinet shop. started out doing the menial stuff…unloading bins of shavings, organizing trimmings…and of course, eventually the dreaded ‘sanding’. as soon as summer rolled around, i was my dad’s captive, kicking and screaming the whole way, but i got to watch old cuban cabinet-makers (known in spanish as ‘ebanistas’ or ‘one who works ebony’) some of whom were in their eighties, and fueled by cuban coffee and an ever-present cigar. these guys built beautiful things out of mahogany, maple, rosewood…you name it, they built it. now i’m 46…and i have the ability to furnish my entire house, with just a few tools that i have in my garage. it goes without saying that this apprenticeship, which i had such disdain for as a little snot, really formed one of the cornerstones of my identity and self-image. thanks, dad! happy Thanksgiving to all the swaylocks crew, past, present, and future.
George Greenough, Dale Solomonson and Will Jobson. All innovators with briliant minds. Happy Thanksgiving!
i served in an apprenticeship from the time i was 11, not in a surfboard > factory…but in my dad’s cabinet shop. started out doing the menial > stuff…unloading bins of shavings, organizing trimmings…and of course, > eventually the dreaded ‘sanding’. as soon as summer rolled around, i was > my dad’s captive, kicking and screaming the whole way, but i got to watch > old cuban cabinet-makers (known in spanish as ‘ebanistas’ or ‘one who > works ebony’) some of whom were in their eighties, and fueled by cuban > coffee and an ever-present cigar. these guys built beautiful things out of > mahogany, maple, rosewood…you name it, they built it. now i’m 46…and i > have the ability to furnish my entire house, with just a few tools that i > have in my garage. it goes without saying that this apprenticeship, which > i had such disdain for as a little snot, really formed one of the > cornerstones of my identity and self-image. thanks, dad! happy > Thanksgiving to all the swaylocks crew, past, present, and future. Ah Ramon, It looks good on ya bra. Nice story!!
George Greenough, Dale Solomonson and Will Jobson. All innovators with > briliant minds. Happy Thanksgiving! Hey, it would be a dream if I were able to be George
s or Wills apprentice! Have a happy thanksgiving, Ryan! My local area`s weather report for tonight is 30 foot seas and 80 mph SW winds… must be winter on the the Oregon coast, eh? Ride a few of those Great Lakes peelers for us! Dale
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Similar to the message below: If you could rub a magic lanter and > apprentice with any shaper/designer who would it be and why? Drew, I have no idea where I would even try to get to meet a master shaper/designer much less get that individual to allow me to have an apprenticeship with him. When I think of the network and friendships that would have to be developed in order to pull off this type of apprenticeship I get weary. The financial aspects alone are challenging! When I think of the sacrifices that those master shapers had to go through to make works of art that have such small margins it is a wonder anyone sticks with it. But the few that persevere and survive are inspiring. The ones that were lucky enough to find a successful marketing strategy are worthy of study. With the duties and obligations that come with fatherhood, it is any wonder that I would have any time to learn this art that serves as a theraputic cleansing after working with the prima-donnas of the coporate world that I am a part of. Enter Swaylocks and the Swayholics! Through this site I have received the gift of learning. This is a safe and cost effective training environment. At times I have posted questions and received answers back in under 5 minutes! I have visited the shaping rooms of several individuals that have impressed me with their ability, generosity and Aloha spirit. Herb gave me some Superchargers and a detailed explanation on their installation. I had the opportunity to watch a true master at work while he whittled away at a 9’ egg – all the while sharing with me many insights and tips that I consider priceless. He also shared some history with me for which I am also grateful – Jim, I still owe you lunch at the very least for that. Drew, I’ve gotta say that I am living that dream apprenticeship through the help of Mike and all of the Swayholics. Because of this site I have been able to ask many (dumb) questions and see other good questions answered by highly skilled artisan/craftsmen. I reiterate: THIS IS MY DREAM APPRENTICESHIP!!! Thanks to everyone for your help, insights, tips, tricks and occasionally funny comments (I look forward to see what Matt and KP have to say about each other). I wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving. Magoo P.S. GOOOOOD Waves Today at HB Pier!!!
Drew, I have no idea where I would even try to get to meet a master > shaper/designer much less get that individual to allow me to have an > apprenticeship with him. When I think of the network and friendships that > would have to be developed in order to pull off this type of > apprenticeship I get weary. The financial aspects alone are challenging! > When I think of the sacrifices that those master shapers had to go through > to make works of art that have such small margins it is a wonder anyone > sticks with it. But the few that persevere and survive are inspiring. The > ones that were lucky enough to find a successful marketing strategy are > worthy of study.>>> With the duties and obligations that come with fatherhood, it is any > wonder that I would have any time to learn this art that serves as a > theraputic cleansing after working with the prima-donnas of the coporate > world that I am a part of.>>> Enter Swaylocks and the Swayholics! Through this site I have received the > gift of learning. This is a safe and cost effective training environment. > At times I have posted questions and received answers back in under 5 > minutes! I have visited the shaping rooms of several individuals that have > impressed me with their ability, generosity and Aloha spirit. Herb gave me > some Superchargers and a detailed explanation on their installation. I had > the opportunity to watch a true master at work while he whittled away at a > 9’ egg – all the while sharing with me many insights and tips that I > consider priceless. He also shared some history with me for which I am > also grateful – Jim, I still owe you lunch at the very least for that.>>> Drew, I’ve gotta say that I am living that dream apprenticeship through > the help of Mike and all of the Swayholics. Because of this site I have > been able to ask many (dumb) questions and see other good questions > answered by highly skilled artisan/craftsmen. I reiterate: THIS IS MY > DREAM APPRENTICESHIP!!!>>> Thanks to everyone for your help, insights, tips, tricks and occasionally > funny comments (I look forward to see what Matt and KP have to say about > each other). I wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving.>>> Magoo>>> P.S. GOOOOOD Waves Today at HB Pier!!! So true, so true. It’s like we’ve all rubbed the magic lanter and up came Mike and Swayholics. Cheers to all of you!