Would it be possible? I love the outline on some of TF’s driftas,I think they would also go great as a twinzer.
Widowmaker/Drifta fin set up on waves with some push and being able to switch to a twinzer on smaller/mushier waves. Jobsons original twinzer concept(battail,bottom,finsetc) differs but I think a hybrid might be a very functional board, if the fin positioning doesn’t cause problems?
Reminds me in a general way of Channel Islands’ MTF, which is a thruster/twin and I think available in quad. Probably could work with any of the multi fin configs.
Worked fine then, will work fine now. Bear in mind, longer turns, longer lines, less snap, more need to carve correctly and less flicky tricky moves.
WPoint forwards makes the board ride longer, like Kelly’s Pipe quad.
Sometimes, that little nose beak helps you paddling and get into the wave sooner, as you can position yourself more forwards when trying to tip the nose down.
Sometimes just shorter is cool and fits inside your car.
But it all works, from WPoints 6" forwards of center to WPoints 4" behind center, it just changes your basic pivot point and adjusts for different size and kinds of waves.
If we all rode 7’ x 20 boards, WPoints forwards for bigger and faster surf, WPoints back for smaller surf and flickier turns.
WP forward longer turns, longer lines, less snap, more need to carve correctly and less flicky tricky moves.
You should watch that Merrick video LeeD. The pull behind the wing changes things away from what you’re saying there.
You might have just meant a 7 footer though.
But still, a WP 2 inches ahead of center on a 7’er would be at 3’8", and the wing is about 8 inches up, so you have a 3 foot effective rail length, which is about the same as a 5’10" fish, and you can get your back foot behind the rail fins on this design.
janklow, I can see the recemblance between the mtf and the driftas outlines. The rounded or no nose just seemed very functional, by loping 3-5ft of the board and still keeping the width and hips.
And TF’s comments in TSJ article “single concave unde the front foot(lean forward and accelerate), double concave under the back(lean back and turn)”, semed to suit my frontfoot or seesaw surfing.
I was also thinking of turning the baby swallow into a rounded diamondtail but keeping the wings, something like an arctail I guess.
Still wondering if the widowmaker/drifta sidefin layout is compatible with a twinzer?
If the (MTF) works as a twin, I would think the same basic shape would work as a twinzer, but it looks more like a tri-tin design to me, 2+1, 2+small trailer, widowmaker, and I’m pretty sure it’s been done as a Bonzer.
A safe one for the twinzer set-up on this shape would be to just plug the rail fins in where are on the MTF there and the canards where they usually go on a twinzer set-up. And with 7’0 you’ll probably have enough stability, but I’d put a set of plugs in at the rear position too and pull the canards out to try it as a tri.
You probably noticed the MTF has a less complicated outline, which would be a good thing.
One thing that occurs to me is that as a quad, it would be fun to have a couple of normal size double foil rears to throw in the rear positions when the waves got big, and throw the smaller single foils in the front positions, esp if they have less toe.
The board is in the works, 7x 22x 3 double wing diomondtail. Decided to go with a custom, since I cant seem to find the time to even finish my 11’6 glider.
Was wondering what kind of fins have you guys have been using in your widowmakers/driftas?
Have heard good things about the starfin in these kind of boards. Already have a 7 true ames bonzer fin that might work, what about the sidebites? The board is going to have fcs fusion boxes.
