dry lam theory

so I’ve heard several times that a drier lam is a stronger lam. There really truth to that? -I mean, say you have a 4 & 6 schedule and the resin wets out, everything good and by the book, but then you notice there’s a heavy texture on the 6 fabric after cure, i.e., you need to either shoot a serious hot coat or sand into your fabric. I don’t sand into the 6, I add more resin. I mean, I paid for that fabric, why would I to delete it…

This talk of ‘dry lams’ sounds odd to me. The resin wets out at will. If the board needs more you add more. (for all intensive purposes, let’s assume blank is sealed sufficiently). So, when someone touts their lams are dry, what the hell does that mean? 

A lam with a higher fibre to resin ratio is stronger per unit of weight.

 

However, you need to be sure that the fibres are fully impregnated. A dry lam won’t be stronger.

As true as it gets.

thanks for clearing the air. I would assume bagging can achieve a higher fiber to resin ratio, but would I or any other surfer really notice this?

High Fiber ratio is really important for tensil resistance. But surfboards break by buckling, flexural instability of compressive stress, where high fiber ratio is not as important. A sealed lam is more important for durability of blank…

Sorry for my frenglish…

With vacuum bagging it is actually pretty easy to get the laminate too dry if you use too much vacuum. You’ll see it as a whitish haze or scattered white spots when you remove the peel-ply.

On a normal surfboard, less than three layers of relatively light glass with no sharp curves or angles, you are better off putting on a nice, tight hand layup than going through the expense and waste of vacuum bagging.

A skilled hand laminator can get really close to the ideal 50/50 glass/resin ratio. With this type of a layup, you will see all of the weave of the fabric before you do the fill coating.

Where the vacuum bag is really useful for surfboard construction is in applying sandwich skins.

trent

 

A properly wetted out lamination will produce a coarse texture on the surface where the weave is very evident, yet fully saturated… The whole reason for a sanding/hot coat is to fill that texture and result in a smooth surface after sanding. If you load so much resin into a lam that the weave disappears you are wasting resin and will get a weaker, more brittle glass job.

 

( I had to laugh at  “all intensive purposes” Too funny)

This is way less than 50/50 and works pretty good.

the correct american cliche’.

for our english as a second language friends,

Is all intents and purposes.

Intents congugates/ contracts : intentions

I wish I could speak better Franch and Espanish

or Italiana,but I will have to settle for

grocery store esperanto

and continuing pidgin study.

…ambrose…

praise be to Norm Crosby

the king of the mis-spoken word.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY6KyCuqeoA

historically :

Norm Crosby roasts Barry Goldwater

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMlCqaQ7Wd4

 

and of corse leo gorcy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qt4QpSjFXM

A historical american humor form…

 

 

Check out this video

 

 

AKA - A “malapropism”, or spoonerism.

Norm was a damn funny guy. Sad thing is, I know a couple of guys who speak like him, and it’s not for comic effect.

Stuff like “maligned” when they mean misaligned. “Paralyzed”, when they’re talking about making something parallel. And my favorite… a “phalangic” shark, when he meant pelagic.

the beauty of language in flux

sometimes the goof is way more carwreckt

than the ol’ oxford englips.

When I woke this am my grey floppy matter

was pronouncing over and over,Mal-a-prop,

and as my monkey mind always hears:

the day it’s correct to ride a longer pig shape.

so I wiki the woid, and get - Dogberryism

whoda thunkit. 

malapropism (also called a Dogberryism) is the use of

an incorrect word in place of a word with a similar sound,

resulting in a nonsensical, often humorous …**

ahhhh the wonders and fun of communication.**

I congradulate friends when they**

hammer out a goodone.**

the 50 year old kid I know one time said proudly **

‘Rebecca gonna do the eurology at my mothers funeral’**

she is one great speaker of course she was a career driver**

 for greylines when the stretchouts ruled the road…**

…ambrose…**

took me some effort**

to find where I wrote this**

to adendize it…dogberry**

do they make a dogberry pie?**

http://books.google.com/books?id=A2KKVQ-QXlEC&pg=PA119&lpg=PA119&dq=tour+hawaii+in+a+stretchout&source=bl&ots=Uo871gowb2&sig=EzTBtHCP7p6eibewhnJtWVOswQo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=RjDLUbmyLom-igLPp4DgBQ&ved=0CHoQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=tour%20hawaii%20in%20a%20stretchout&f=false

 

 

just in case you wanna read about stretchouts

an’ stuff

…ambrose…