At www.rockler.com, check out the “Rockler wall mount dust collector”. For a couple hundred, this is a cool thing to have with the broom attachment. I like it because it doesn’t take up much room and will take chrome off your ball hitch.
I know the machine your talking about paul I did look at it at the time, it’s a doosie, that bag attachment is awesome. The price is a little hectic for small time board builders though. For the same price as the Nilfisc I got the dust extractor and a sander…but yeah the Nilfisc is B.S.
I’ve invested in the Festool gear now so hopefully it’ll last me 5-10years, mines the Festool CT 26 E AUS HEPA , it’s fairly high on the awesome-ness scale. I’m sanding with the Festool Rotex sander too so she sucks foam, sanding dust and MDF board that I cut.
Just thought one of these mini cyclone things would save me bag changes and dust that goes in the machine, the Festool has self cleaning filters too though.
People might think myself as a wanker for spending the coin on this gear but I think your health is priceless, I’d hate to be dieing of a respitory disease one day and look back and wish I wasn’t such a tight ass.
The cheap home option might be to get the cyclone attached to a dust extractor that has the highest rated HEPA filter you can get.
I find this setup ludicrous…
the collection bag is not solid and allows the finest (and most dangerous) particles to be propelled back in to the air space (though the 5 micron upgrade would be 6x better than the 30mu standard).
I have my dust collector in a box outside my shop with hoses coming in to the room…it made a HUGE difference on my well being.
when I used to run it contained in the shop I would get major chest congestion after working on woodworking projects…headaches, coughing.
I probably also have a really shitty bag.
I have dreams of building one of those cyclone systems from that one site…
plus, that’s 2x the cost of a bigger Jet version that comes with a 5mu bag:
http://www.amazon.com/Jet-708701-FB-650-5M-Collection-Collector/dp/B00005NMRJ
Inhalable Dust
Airborne particles which can enter the nose and mouth during normal breathing. Particles of 100 microns diameter or less.Thoracic Dust
Particles that will pass through the nose and throat, reaching the lungs. Particles of 10 microns diameter and less. Referred to as PM10 in the USA.Respirable Dust
Particles that will penetrate into the gas exchange region of the lungs. A hazardous particulate size less than 5 microns.
Don’t seem to have that problem though it is used for mostly clean up. The broom attachment is real handy. Haven’t had a beef with the 5 mic. bag yet. That’s a good deal on the Jet system. The cyclones are pretty easy to make. Are you referring to the woodworking site? There are a couple of styles to copy. Both are easy and cheap to do.
Of course you are right. It’s way better to have it outside of the shop while in use. Now you’ve got me thinking of making a move on the Jet.
I want to build/buy one of these buggers and then punch a hole directly through the wall to it where it would sit in a sound insulated cabinet outdoors.
http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm
I also run a big box fan in the window to maintain negative air pressure in the room to keep from filling up the rest of the garage with wood/foam/glass/resin dust…poor man’s sanding booth.
Afoaf, check : www.lumberjocks.com. Use the search for projects; Cyclones. Simon SKL has an easily made one with decent instructions.
Check out the Dust Deputy for a $100, you can vacuum up resin dust/drywall dust all day and not clog your shopvac filter. Definitely worth the money.
Does this dustdeputy outperform the veritas cyclone lid? Has anyone had experience with either?
http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=30282&cat=1,42401&ap=1
I don’t have any experience with the veritas lid but the dust deputy is more like a true cyclonic vacuum system. I have not empty my vacuum yet all the material and fine dust goes in the 5 gallon bucket.
Ronin, The Lee Valley helps separate the dust from the larger chunks. The homemade elongated cyclone creates a much stronger venturi. These really pay off with woodworking where you will get chunks of wood and fine dust. They also are an efficient way to remove dust from the tool including foam. The longer cyclone has more vacuum and helps a great deal. The best of all worlds would be to have, the Jet dual stage system with a cyclone in mid stream on a 35 gal can and then the feed to the shop. Check out the do it yourself version on the lumberjocks site. You can make it easily.
I bought the one they have that fits onto 5 gallon buckets, but the suction from my Rigid 6HP vac just crushes the bucket like an empty beer can slammed against my forehead. Cyclone filter now sitting somewhere in the limbo land of unused tools in my garage.
That dust deputy looks interesting though
Bud, did you try using the setup with a larger can, like a standard size trash can? That might help with the vacuum pressure.
Also Bud try using bigger 4" connections to the cyclone instead of 2".
Gavage, is that a tear drop you are working on? Always thought that would be a fun project.
tblank, yes it is a teardrop. It has been a fun project and I am close to finishing it.
Hey G, did you make your own trailer platform? You can really trick these thing out. Hope it brings loads of fun.
Do those mini cyclones separate the fine dust?
Marsh, Yes they separate the dust but if they don’t have the room (size of can) and are close the vacuum source they will just pull everything through. They create a nice Venturi, so if the cone is long the bigger chunks have time to separate and fall out first while the fines go to the bag or vac. canister. Go to; www.joethewoodworker.com , there are homemade versions with drawings and photos.
Marsh,
My setup separates the fine dust, everything is deposited in the 5 gallon bucket. I get very little dust or pull through in the vacuum container after vacuuming drywall dust, resin dust and sawdust. I am constantly amazed how well it works.