It is true that I try…But I know I could do better, and I think that this applys to most home shapers. But is there a betterway? I don’t sand if it is raining outside the shop so the dunst won’t go down the drains. I sweep a lot, try to catch as much falling resin in my bucket, but regardless I am still guilty. I don’t have the resources to own a seperate room with sand floors to pooper scooper out all the resin chunks like JC, I dont know what materials i can substitute to make an eco-friendly board that still performs. And I honestly don’t know if there is a better way of disposing these chemicals then to simply put them in the garbage can.
I think that cured resin,foam dust and glass dust are basically inert and won’t polute anything unless you try to ingest it somehow…I compare it to sawdust,road dust,glass, and maybe concrete blocks.All are manmade pruucts but not really a hazard.Concrete blocks,foam and glass will cause stomach cramps if eaten in the solid form.Put em in a blender with some smoothie(orDaqauri) mix and you are OK.If one truly cares about the enviornment I recommend parking your petroleum fueled vehicle on a tarp so it will catch any drips of fluid that may end up in the storm drain.Come to think of it the tarp should stay on there all of the time.Last of all…don’t wash dishes with soap.It is petroleum based…just like shampoo.Well…time to go for now.The Bar has two for one drinks and I got a new cell phone.I hear that talking on a cell phone while driving is just as bad as being drunk.So I figure if you are drunk anyway it’s OK to talk on the cell phone. RB
…time to go for now.The Bar has two for one drinks and I got a new cell phone.I hear that talking on a cell phone while driving is just as bad as being drunk.So I figure if you are drunk anyway it’s OK to talk on the cell phone. RBclassic
I park my 1990 toyota corrola in a car port with mats underneath it which is modified with better intakes for 34 miles to the gallon! (and i am serious call me a hippie if you want)
I can’t emagine that glass dust in the water runoff being the same as saw dust, some how that does not make sense.
I want to try epoxy on my next board but am worried about the heat of Hawaii and the fact that my board makes many an all day journey in the front seat of my car while i am at school or work in between surfs.
Skeletor I was just joshin’ you.I totally respect the comments you made.Glass is glass…made of silica.Fiberglass is just woven glass fiber.No different than the stuff in a window.It will fill a landfill for sure but I don’t think it will cause pollution.Glass can be recycled.Unfortunately the materials to make it are almost free so it’s not done. rb
Greg was using Hemp on boards a few years ago and they had some delam problems.Maybe he can weigh in on that.Long ago I posted a deal about cork blanks and the thread kind of died.Paul Jensen picked up on it and uses cork for rails on hollow boards.Without getting to long winded about it cork can easily be made in to a blank.It comes in all sorts of forms.You can buy thick sheets like foam and glue up a blank.It is actually the bark of a tree and harvested yearly.Cork is light,will not suck water,and hard to dent.(try bighting a wine cork and you will see what I mean).I can go on but I will stop.Go on the internet and start reading…it will blow your mind. RB
Did you finally tried a cork blank? if i remember well a french user from this site had build a cork surfboard.
The thing is that it will be an organic surfboard, but i think it wont be a solution. What will happen if everyone made every board out of cork? the impact on the nature would be that we’ll have no cork in a short period of time. Anyway i would like to try it, on the same thread Dale said that here in Spain we have a lot of cork… we’ll see.
Yep you are in cork country for sure.It is a huge industry.Google “cork” and you will see what I mean.Look for “reconstituted cork”.They actually mold it in to sheets and lumber using no glue.It has its own God given glue and all they do is boil it somehow.
Skeletor I was just joshin' you.I totally respect the comments you made.Glass is glass..made of silica.Fiberglass is just woven glass fiber.No different than the stuff in a window.It will fill a landfill for sure but I don't think it will cause pollution.Glass can be recycled.Unfortunately the materials to make it are almost free so it's not done. rb
pollution - definitely
toxic, not really.
Now, unkicked resin is a different story. Same for MEKP and acetone, keep it out of the ground. Sanding dust, or PU foam shavings, inert and non-toxic.
A recent photo, one of my thermal welders. The process produces no noise, dust, noxious fumes, very little waste. What it does produce is extremely flexible and responsive, high strength-to-weight ratio surfcraft (average 18 to 20 ounces)… and lots of happy customers.
I think that there’s some stuff that can be done and I think that more and more people are becoming aware and supportive of conservation and anti-pollution. With regards to blanks, the hemp thread talked about potato starch eps? I think that would be an awesome alternative. And for resin I think roy was using tree resin. And then of course natural fibers are abundant. So the potential for making a completely earth friendly board is out there and is attainable. I think there could actually be a market niche if someone made a completely eco-friendly board.
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If you used potato starch as your blank I think you would give a whole new meaning to “potato-chip style thruster”
I started checking out cork cleanlines but am a little nervous of trying it
I would have to vacume bag it right?
never done that before and don’t really think I have the resources or knowledge. potato starch eps with hemp sounds like something good to try but I am going to search around a little bit
My thoughts on cork were to buy some of the big sheets…rip them down in to strips and glue up a blank just like you do with balsa.Add a stringer or two and hand glass em as normal with epoxy.I played around with a big hunk of cork and it can be planed with Skil.A grit drum would may be better.I also did some glass tests and both poly and epoxy worked.The epoxy seemed to bond better.Actually a cork board could possibly be used with no skin at all if you had some sort of waterproof stringer.The old time fishing nets had them as floats and they never seemed to get water logged.Corky Carrol could be the test pilot.
Maybe it comes in different weights?Like balsa it is an organic material.I did a comparison with the two and in my case the cork weighed less.I do know that basla varies a lot in weight but not sure about cork.Thanks Pierre.
I found a silk(40%) hemp(60%) blend at EcoThreads.com and emailed them about the weight and tightness and eveness of the weave. I think it might work because silk alone is too finely woven to absorb enough resin. They also have a 100% Hemp 5.8oz cloth and a variety of other blends.
