How do you go about embedding logos in epoxy, such at logo are put on polyester surfboards? Has the technique of embedding a logo on a polyester board changed over the years?
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How do you go about embedding logos in epoxy, such at logo are put on polyester surfboards? Has the technique of embedding a logo on a polyester board changed over the years?
Exactly the same as polyester. Use rice paper laminate and a little resin and squeegee flat.
Vanbokken:
I use the same technique. On the foam for single layer bottoms and between layers on multi lam layers. You can also overlay clear lams on top of opaques with a 4 oz. cover if you don’t have opaque lam paper.
Tom S.
I guess I had heard wrong. I thoughtI heard there were binders in the rice paper that the epoxy could not break down. Is there a place that can do up the rice paper logos that you could refer me to?
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Vanbokken:
I use the same technique. On the foam for single layer bottoms and between layers on multi lam layers. You can also overlay clear lams on top of opaques with a 4 oz. cover if you don’t have opaque lam paper.
Tom S.
I don’t quite get what your saying here. Could you clarify what you mean by “overlay clear lams on top of opaques if you don’t have opaque lam paper”? Are you talking about the type of rice paper?
I make my logos up using an inkjet printer and the Silkspan or “rice paper” material I buy from my supplier. When applying a logo to an opaque glass job I just lay the lam ON TOP of the lamination (before hotcoat) and then cover it with a lightweight 4oz. piece of cloth. Next I hotcoat he board as normal. This is a shortcut method, when all you have is a clear logo that would cloud up if tinted resin were applied.
You can make opaque lams using the inkjet, DIY type method. First you must paint opaque, water based acrylic paint on the opposite side that you will print the ink on. Apply the paint with foam brushes or small roller. Two thin coats works better than a single thick coat. Run it through your printer as the final step, make sure your type is on the unpainted side of the rice paper. Hope that clears up any confusion.
Tom S.
Yes, that is great. Thank you very much.
Grant
If you don’t mind me asking. Who would be a good supplier of this rice-paper or “silkspan” (not sure what this in exactly) for someone in So-Cal?
Also would an ink-jet printer’s ink work for polyester and vinylester as well? I don’t know off the top of my head what type of ink these printers use. Is the ink compatable with all resin systems?
I use a supplier in Florida, www.surfsource.net. No doubt you could order it from any of the online suppliers, Basham’s, FoamEZ, FiberglassSupply etc. Just ask for logo or lam paper in the precut sheets. I use an HP printer, nothing special for inks. Many of the colors are not that stable in sunlight, reds and yellows for example. From Kokua’s posts and feedback I’d buy an Epson printer with the Durabrite inks, seems that they are more stable. (I believe that is the Mfr.?? Model xx82 if not mistaken) It’s an inexpensive setup at under $80.00 online. Good luck.
Tom S.
rice paper can also be bought from art supply stores, which tend to carry different varieties from the rice papers sold by surfboard suppliers (e.g. rolls instead of sheets, different weights of paper, etc). I’ve used both and have had good result with the art store stuff, which is also cheaper in many cases.
Silkspan can be found at hobby shops, it is a product used to cover the wings of model airplanes… or at least it used to be, it has been replaced by mylar-based shrink wrap materials in many applications. But that’s where to look for it, in the hobby supply places…
You can buy them online at:
http://www.mindspring.com/~dba-interwest/www/web10.htm
Their contact info:
Interwest Company - Fremont CA - ph: 1-510-656-0716
Cabeto
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rice paper can also be bought from art supply stores, which tend to carry different varieties from the rice papers sold by surfboard suppliers (e.g. rolls instead of sheets, different weights of paper, etc). I’ve used both and have had good result with the art store stuff, which is also cheaper in many cases.
Silkspan can be found at hobby shops, it is a product used to cover the wings of model airplanes… or at least it used to be, it has been replaced by mylar-based shrink wrap materials in many applications. But that’s where to look for it, in the hobby supply places…
Be careful to test your laminate BEFORE you laminate. Ive tried several different kinds of rice paper as well as other kinds of paper and even tissue paper and most are generally okay on a clear board but with color/airbrush some of them will show the outline of the paper and its quite obvious.
You have to be real carefuly when using rice paper laminates with an airbrush board. Just bring it as close to the logo as possible when cutting it.
Aloha
Bryan