Hey Guys, have somebody some advices for me. I want to spray some Airbrush-designs on my EPS blank. Is ist possible!? do i need some specials colors?
THX for the help
Greetz Chris
Hey Guys, have somebody some advices for me. I want to spray some Airbrush-designs on my EPS blank. Is ist possible!? do i need some specials colors?
THX for the help
Greetz Chris
i suggest sealing the blank w/ a slurry of epox resin, q cell and cabosil. include some white pigment in the slurry to give yourself a good, white base.
Hey Surfding, nice to hear from you!! 10.000 THX for all XPS advices! The board is amazing, no delams at all:)
What do you mean make the color pop. I thought to shape the EPS after that to spackle it and than do the artwork.....
With Tight Fused EPS I don't spackle.
However when I was first working with EPS I always spackled: With Fast and Final light weight thinned with distilled water.
I would prime the board before color work with a primer with a stain blocker and UV inhibtor. When I use the word "POP" I am referring to the colors standing out and coming alive. Putting the color direct to the spackled blank direct would come out blotchy. Using Primer as a base under the color is like preparing a cavas with Gesso before painting.
Surfding
ahh ok, are there some problems with the bonding (layers) and the primer!?
Howzit surfding, Zinsser is one of if not the best out there and I use it all the time for priming and sealing an some other appliations.Aloha,Kokua
Here's a good one I learned right here on Swaylocks. It works too.
Mix microballoons with white acrylic primer (Zinsser, KILZ, etc) until you have a mayonnaise consistency. Spread on the blank as you would Fast&Final. Bingo - spackled and primed in one step. It takes water base paint and epoxy A-OK.
I have done that method as well John and it's a nice one step application. Basically your making a Gesso.
Kokua:
What's nice about the Zinsser is you can use it for your base and mix your Tempura Paints to make the colors some alive. Zinsser has a stain blocker and a UV Inhibitor. If you use a good gun (HVLP) you won't get a conflict with the epoxy. I see a lot of failure from guy's who put their paint on too thick and uneven. Especially with darker colors. Application is key. I'm speaking to the choir however there may be some poor soul we can save from failure!
Surfding
THX for all advices, i will search for all the things here in germany:)
I heard a rumour that after you sand the eps blank, don’t blow it clean, and spread a thin layer of epoxy, mixing with the eps dust. Anyone done/doing this?
I’ve been using fast and final, but like the white primer sealers - thanks guys!
Some guys just use the primer as well. I quit using the Fast n' Final when I started using Tight fused EPS MOLDED. The primer helps the colors or just keep the blank white.
This is interesting, surfding. I am familiar with zinzer/binz cuz we use it as a primer over knots for trim and siding. It works good but two coats over wood is better. I don’t understand the benefit of the uv inhibitor protecting the foam, but I understand having uv blocker in the resin such as the blue resin research (‘ce’?) for protecting the glass from yellowing. Or does the sun have deteriorating effects on the foam itself, too? Also, like maybe christoph was wondering, how is the resin gonna bond to the foam after this, or is the bite of the paint itself just as strong as the bond of resin would be to the foam? just curious, thanks…
I will have to remember to take photographs of the EPS/EPOXY boards with the primer and color spray. The color is richer. PU foam will yellow and if you spray them white with the primer they stay brighter and whiter longer. With the younger generation if the board yellows it's "KOOK CITY"! Midget Smith use to paint all his shortboards white as most of his customers were contest surfers. Never had any delam issues as long as you used a HVLP sprayer.
Howzit surfding, Here's another little trick to keep even white paint from yellowing, add just afew drops of black paint to the white. I learned this rom a house painter becuse he told me even white wipp yellow like kitchen and bathrooms painted white. You can also add red or blue which gives the paint a hot (red) or cool (blue) hue layed with this a lot and found that dding even a little more black made for some great colors, jut don't add to much and turn the white grey. I also played with adding black to some of my othher colors and once again it made them look really deep looking. If you dd black to floural paints it helps them from fading and adds depth to the color, so many ways to play with paint.Aloha,kokua
Yes… a painter friend of mine showed me the same trick. He specializes in faux finishes and cabinet work, and says a drop of black makes everything better… even white. Been doing it ever since.
NJ and Kokua:
Great points. I have use a small drop of Dark Blue to make the White Hotter.
Dang ,,, I love hearing all these little tricks
(drop of black in any color makes it richer)
Me too. Slick trick